Strange that Mason is on the "good" list in the stock-watch. What has he done since mid-season to warrant any sort of boost? He's been a solid all-around player for us, but he was our best player in December, had reliable post moves, and was going toe-to-toe with guys like Robinson and Sullinger. Not so much in February/March.
"There are going to be those people in your life who say you can't do something.. Use them as motivation, and make them look stupid!"
Well, maybe there are those who told Austin that he can not lead a college team to a NCAA Championship.
Of course, it more likely that there are those who told Austin he is not ready for the NBA.
Make of it what you may.
I didn't take a look at his stuff and I don't really follow him, so I didn't know if he was looking at all season or looking at possible draft entries.
That does make sense.
I agree with Greg that I'm surprised Mason is on there even if it's in the honorable mention category.
FWIW, I just got this weird vibe today that we get Austin back and not Mason (contrary to what everyone's been thinking). However, the most I've ever won in this lifetime is $100, so I wouldn't put much stock in that.
This year's draft is going to be overly saturated with talent due to so many prospects deciding to remain in college one extra year( henson,zeller, barnes, sullinger, jones III, and terrence jones come to mind)... All of those players will go ahead of Mason IMO; this might be enough to make waiting around one more year the best option financially and developmentally.
From his tweets alone, I gather that Chad Ford is not a fan of Austin's at all. He even quoted Coach K saying that McCollum was the best player on the court and followed it with an uncalled for suggestion that "somewhere Austin Rivers is crying" because of that statement. It'll take a lot to get him on the "good" list but his not-so-great and not-so-bad 19 pt performance didn't warrant a place on the "bad" list either.
Or am I the only Duke b-ball fan who still laments the assinineness of Will Avery's going pro early?
(Hey, my first post here--be kind ;-) Great to find, at long last, this site where real Blue Devil fans dwell and remember and predict!)
Now, I don't know that this means that college is the right place to pursue this. It might just as well be that the NBA is the right move. But I never thought Austin was in college just waiting to "go back home" so to speak.
Personally, his actions and the way his character has come off (at least in my view) seem to suggest that a mid-first round pick where he would likely sit on the bench for a year or two in the NBA is not Austin's preference. But again, I could be way off. Time will tell. I think it makes a lot of sense to play one more year.
My perspective on Austin, which is probably buried in some other thread somewhere from three weeks ago, is that in order to become a top 10 pick by staying another year, he would have to be Duke's starting point guard. He would have to show pro scouts he can play point in order to become valuable enough, showing enough upside, to elevate himself in the draft considerably beyond the 15-20 range where he would likely go this June.
Because of Duke's roster - Quinn, Tyler, Seth - Austin will not play point at Duke next season. So his draft status probably would not change considerably if he stayed another year.
I understand that's not all that goes into this decision. But from a straight, dispassionate analysis, his draft stock is set in the 15-20 range and I would go pro if I were him. If he loves college that much, or really wants to go to a Final Four, then that's an emotional aspect to the decision that I'm not really qualified to comment on since I've never met then kid.
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No point to worrying about this.
Its impact to next years team, recruiting, team chemistry all that jazz. Its out of our control.
I trust these guys to do whats best for them. If that means going; fine... Good Luck and God bless.
Do both have things to work on?, yes.
Can they make someones roster anyway?, most likely.
Will they be an "impact" addition to someones franchise?, not likely at this time.
I've become somewhat jaded.
I'll pull for the guys who suit up next year regardless of who they are and not worry about it till that time....
And I agree--the best to them either way; the team next year will be who they are, and either way they will no doubt take us fans on an interesting journey.
Now, all that being said I'm not necessarily saying Austin should come back to Duke for another season. I think there is no doubt he would benefit from coming back and I'd love to see him suit up in a Duke uni again. He had a special freshman season that has, unfortunately, been overshadowed a bit by the relative disappointment of the team's performance and certain parts of the media who assume that because Austin wasn't in the NPOY conversation he failed to live up to expectations. All that being said, people who go to the NBA before they're ready to be big stars get the opportunity to work on basketball full time and get paid for their efforts. Austin is a total gym rat. If he goes to the NBA he'll have even MORE time to work on his game. My guess is that the Austin Rivers we see a year and a half from now will be a much improved version of the player he is right now whether he put in his work at Duke or for an NBA team.
Rivers was the best 2 guard in the country and I think his game is more ready for the NBA than college. Now If he can learn to see the floor better and jump his assist average to around 6 a game like JWill and carry Duke to a final four, he could easily jump to the to 5. This is why I think he could benefit learning the game 1 more year under K.
I see the comparisons of Jayson Williams Coach K talked about and and Rivers has better size and that makes him NBA ready. Rivers is a special player that can make his teammates better if he learns to see the floor. Duke would be unstoppable if AR avg 6 or 7 assist a game.
Avery has been cited as a guy who "left too early", but it's equally plausible that he just wasn't an NBA talent, and that he left at exactly the right time i.e. when he was in a position to parlay a terrific sophomore season into a lottery pick.