New 2012 Recruiting Thread

[Ichabod Drain]

The 5/8 rule is a thing of the past.

ETA: Link.

I was wondering why I had a hard time finding information on it. I am consistently living in the past.

[Indoor66]

5/8 rule has been gone for years. The 13-scholarship limit may limit the size of Duke's class, though.

The 5/8 rule would play havoc with the Kentucky meme for basketball scholarship division, wouldn't it?

[nocilla]

The 5/8 rule would play havoc with the Kentucky meme for basketball scholarship division, wouldn't it?

St John's would have had a little trouble too.

[Matches]

Didn't BC have nine freshmen or something like that last year? If BC was a Division I team they'd have had serious trouble...

[UrinalCake]

If BC was a Division I team they'd have had serious trouble...

Hey-ooooo!

[UrinalCake]

This seems like a case where a misplaced period makes a big difference. The way it's quoted on the main page and in the referenced article, Austin says

...we have a good recruiting class that could be even better if Shabazz [Muhammad] were to come to Duke. And they have a transfer.

But the way I've seen it quoted previously it was

...we have a good recruiting class that could be even better if Shabazz [Muhammad] were to come to Duke and they have a transfer.

In the latter case, he's saying that they could be better if Bazz comes and if they get a transfer, NOT stating a fact that the transfer has already happened. Big difference. Anyone have a clearer picture as to what he actually said, or an audio of the quote?

[CDu]

This seems like a case where a misplaced period makes a big difference.

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In the latter case, he's saying that they could be better if Bazz comes and if they get a transfer, NOT stating a fact that the transfer has already happened. Big difference. Anyone have a clearer picture as to what he actually said, or an audio of the quote?

That's an excellent point. Illustrates the danger of reading a transcription of a quote. Those are two VERY different statements.

[airowe]

Here's the audio of the interview: http://www.wralsportsfan.com/duke/au...elated=3297567

[CDu]

Here's the audio of the interview: http://www.wralsportsfan.com/duke/au...elated=3297567

That certainly sounds like he is suggesting we have a transfer. I'm guessing he means Zeigler. And I'm guessing it's a combination of a slip of the tongue and lack of complete information.

[airowe]

That certainly sounds like he is suggesting we have a transfer. I'm guessing he means Zeigler. And I'm guessing it's a combination of a slip of the tongue and lack of complete information.

Well, Kyrie did let the DeAndre Daniels cat out of the bag last year: http://www.ballinisahabit.net/2011/0...e-daniels.html

[UrinalCake]

That certainly sounds like he is suggesting we have a transfer. I'm guessing he means Zeigler. And I'm guessing it's a combination of a slip of the tongue and lack of complete information.

That would mean that not only is Zeigler coming but they already know that his appeal will be upheld and he'll be immediately available. Seems unlikely that that much information is out there, has not been announced, but was shared with Austin (though not impossible I guess).

[CDu]

Well, Kyrie did let the DeAndre Daniels cat out of the bag last year: http://www.ballinisahabit.net/2011/0...e-daniels.html

Yeah, just evidence that these guys don't always have complete information, despite being very close to the team. On an unrelated note, I'm really regretting that we didn't get the unbelievable difference-maker Deandre Daniels...

12.1 mpg, 3.0 ppg, 2.1 rpg, 34.1 fg%, 24.0 3pt%, 80.0 ft%, 0.68 A/TO

[FerryFor50]

Yeah, just evidence that these guys don't always have complete information, despite being very close to the team. On an unrelated note, I'm really regretting that we didn't get the unbelievable difference-maker Deandre Daniels...

12.1 mpg, 3.0 ppg, 2.1 rpg, 34.1 fg%, 24.0 3pt%, 80.0 ft%, 0.68 A/TO

To be fair, he did have Oriakhi as a roadblock... *snicker*

[airowe]

Yeah, just evidence that these guys don't always have complete information

Just because DeAndre didn't end up at Duke doesn't mean that information wasn't correct at the time. I think it's more evidence that things can change rapidly in the recruiting process.

[CDu]

Just because DeAndre didn't end up at Duke doesn't mean that information wasn't correct at the time. I think it's more evidence that things can change rapidly in the recruiting process.

Did Daniels ever commit to come to Duke? Because that's the implication Irving made. As such, I think that the information was probably incorrect at the time. I'm obviously not well informed, but based on that quote I'd say he was providing incorrect information. Maybe he was misquoted, so it is hard to say.

[FerryFor50]

Did Daniels ever commit to come to Duke? Because that's the implication Irving made. As such, I think that the information was probably incorrect at the time. I'm obviously not well informed, but based on that quote I'd say he was providing incorrect information. Maybe he was misquoted, so it is hard to say.

It's also possible that Daniels told Irving one thing and then went and did another. Or maybe UConn made an offer he couldn't refuse... free laptops maybe?

[MChambers]

Yeah, just evidence that these guys don't always have complete information, despite being very close to the team. On an unrelated note, I'm really regretting that we didn't get the unbelievable difference-maker Deandre Daniels...

12.1 mpg, 3.0 ppg, 2.1 rpg, 34.1 fg%, 24.0 3pt%, 80.0 ft%, 0.68 A/TO

I looked him up yesterday. Didn't have much of a season. If only he had come to Duke, or Carrick Felix or Roscoe Smith, or if Olek had not transferred. . .

[tommy]

I looked him up yesterday. Didn't have much of a season. If only he had come to Duke, or Carrick Felix or Roscoe Smith, or if Olek had not transferred. . .

Don't forget about Tyler Adams, the must-have space-eater down low that de-committed from Duke. He played four nondescript games at Georgetown (6 minutes per game avg.) before being sidelined for the rest of the year with concerns about his heart. Who knows what his future holds.

[airowe]

Did Daniels ever commit to come to Duke? Because that's the implication Irving made. As such, I think that the information was probably incorrect at the time. I'm obviously not well informed, but based on that quote I'd say he was providing incorrect information. Maybe he was misquoted, so it is hard to say.

Daniels would have been at Duke had he made it through the admissions process. Kyrie knew that at the time apparently but was not able to foresee those issues.

[CDu]

I looked him up yesterday. Didn't have much of a season. If only he had come to Duke, or Carrick Felix or Roscoe Smith, or if Olek had not transferred. . .

Don't forget about Tyler Adams, the must-have space-eater down low that de-committed from Duke. He played four nondescript games at Georgetown (6 minutes per game avg.) before being sidelined for the rest of the year with concerns about his heart. Who knows what his future holds.

Yeah, it's always dangerous to get too caught up with what you see in a high school prospect. Generally speaking, if they aren't a top 10-15 recruit, they aren't likely to start at Duke as a freshman and it's unlikely that they'll contribute very much right away. And just because they wait until the end of the recruiting period to sign doesn't mean they'll be an impact player. Probably things to keep in mind with regard to Jefferson and (perhaps) Parker. Muhammad (if he comes to Duke) and Sulaimon are more likely to contribute for us right away (and Muhammad more likely than Sulaimon).