We just couldn't hit any open shots in the first 10- 15 min of the game and unc played their normal game and we were down by 15-20 points.. We hit 40% of those open 3's and it's a different game.. But we didn't.. The effort was there..
I just don't see how one can say we didn't have the same effort.. durning our mini runs in the second half, we still missed open 3's and even lay ups ,, the effort was there.. it just wasn't our night, and unc was more of a machine running smoothly.
I doubt that he would have made an impact at all this season, and the year of practice, growth and mental maturity will have to help him down the road. I just can't see AM taking us to a higher level this year.
Plus, with the way recruiting has gone this year, it will be nice to have him in that "2012" class...
I think that the OP's question is a valid one. I guess my answer to it is yes, it was. Considering Silent G has been available the whole season and has barely sniffed the court, let alone been a major contributor, I can't say that Alex being available would have yielded much better results than we saw from Mike, unless he's a far superior player and I never really read that anywhere on this board.
I will say that the majority of us knew from the early games, SF would be a problem for us this season. Several pinned their hopes on Dre, but the consistency just isn't there yet and I'm beginning to wonder if it will ever be.
I hear a lot about statistics on this site, but there is more to the game than that. "Fight" and "heart" are also about making shots. 48-24 is more than just not hitting open shots. It's fine to list statistics, but those numbers don't exist in a vacuum, and they are an effect, not a cause. We missed those shots because we were not fighting. We didn't go down 48-24 because our shooting percentage fell 2 statistical deviations under the mean randomly during the biggest game of the year against our biggest rival.
To me, the Duke team that came out after half time (Mason in particular) was not the same as the team on the floor in the first half, and it wasn't just because statistics were evening themselves out.
Have to admit, the fact that we felt like we were looking for some longer, athletic wings all year and yet we had two on the bench (Alex and Mike) just made me scratch my head. I know that K obviously knows a lot more than I do, but given how Andre had games where he barely played, and Quinn looked decidedly like a freshman for long stretches of the season, is the lineup of Tyler-Seth-Austin SO good that NO time can be found for two very highly rated recruits (Alex was like Top 10 or so in his original class!) with some size and ability?
Definitely leaves me scratching my head. IMVHO, Alex Murphy should have played this year.
Granted, the inability to defend Marshall and the great shooting from Henson and Zeller and the poor fortune for us on the offensive end were just as key if not moreso. But I think it would be very easy to argue that UNC had at least a bit more fight in them then we did. At least in the first half.
I do mean to be snarky, specifically because it bothers me that people come on here and go to rip kids who went out there and gave it their all for 40 minutes. We came out, we had a bad offensive stretch when things weren't falling, and we played them even for the last 30 minutes of the game.....I might even say that being so excited to play, so amped up, might have contributed to missing the shots. We wanted it just as much as they did, its just that we let that excitement, that adrenaline negatively affect our game.
If there was actually less "heart" in the first 10 minutes, then we should have seen an affect on both their offensive output and their rebounding....but those were very consistent throughout the whole game. pretty much the only thing that changed between the first 10 minutes and the rest of the game was that we made some shots.
If you want to rip kids whose crime is missing some shots....and say that its because they weren't trying hard enough, be my guest.
I have yet to rip anyone though. I hardly think noting that we didn't have enough fight is ripping. We are all allowed to opine on the team around here as long as it's not destructive or insulting.
Crazy... 48-24, and the sole reason for that is missed shots? I just don't see it. We definitely missed some shots that we should have made. It was like there was a lid on the basket... but I think there has to be a reason for that many missed shots. I don't think it's the difference in talent between the two teams, as we have played them even in 2 of the 4 halves of basketball this year. I also don't think it's a statistical aberration. It's just too damn big of an aberration to randomly rear its head against our biggest rival, especially following the final shot in the last game that we played them in. UNC fought harder and deserved the win. The quotes following the game from our own team point to this.
Again, how hard you play is often reflected much more in defense and rebounding than offense....and those things were bad throughout....so I'm not sure you can say that is evidence of not playing hard for the first 10 minutes.
Reading and posting at DBR for over 20 years and loving every... well, almost every minute of it!
Effort and heart can be difficult to judge, especially through a TV screen.
I think he would have helped enormously. Before it was clear he'd be redshirting, wasn't the word that he was playing well enough in practice to fight for a starting spot? With all due respect to Hairston and Gbinje, we could really use a forward that's capable of playing major minutes. It's an obvious hole in our roster.
All that said, it's always seemed to me that if you're willing to read between the lines a little bit, the redshirt wasn't done for strategic basketball reasons. So it's fine.
My guess is if it was 22-20 at that point, and then UNC outscored us 66-65 the rest of the way, you wouldn't be talking about how much of a difference there was in the two segments of the game.
Last edited by Kedsy; 03-04-2012 at 03:53 PM.