The Josh concussion vigil

[diveonthefloor]

Jeff just mentioned on postgame that Josh has concussion.

[Dr. Tina]

I heard this, too! I love Josh, or Jiggy, as I love to call him. Capel said they missed him in the game and on the bench today. He brings energy, talks a lot, and acts kind of like TT does in the post. I hope it's nothing really bad, and he can get some rest and come back to play.

[dairedevil]

I guess from the contact that caused the cut on his face? Even the announcers were asking about a foul. I didn't see when it happened, and there was no replay, so I don't know if it was inadvertent contact.

Whatever the cause, I hope he's feeling better soon.

[OldPhiKap]

I have been an unabashed Josh fan since last year. Love the kid's potential, and the energy/fun he brings with him.

Recover quickly, Jiggy. You are an important part of the run we're about to make in March.

[buddy]

Josh's concussion will make medical history. It is the first non-contact concussion ever recorded. It must have been spontaneous, because if it had been caused by a blow to the head the referees surely would have called a foul!

[mgtr]

Josh's concussion will make medical history. It is the first non-contact concussion ever recorded. It must have been spontaneous, because if it had been caused by a blow to the head the referees surely would have called a foul!

Outstanding post! A spontaneous concussion. Wonderful. Get well quick, Jiggy!

[loldevilz]

I heard this, too! I love Josh, or Jiggy, as I love to call him. Capel said they missed him in the game and on the bench today. He brings energy, talks a lot, and acts kind of like TT does in the post. I hope it's nothing really bad, and he can get some rest and come back to play.

Yeah especially in this matchup. They basically play a four guard lineup. And as much as I love Kelly he simply can't guard out there on the perimeter.

[Greg_Newton]

Hope he's alright, and hope Thornton doesn't also have one. He took a helluva hit from Raines on that late, full-court screen.

[OZZIE4DUKE]

Hope he's alright, and hope Thornton doesn't also have one. He took a helluva hit from Raines on that late, full-court screen.

As has been discussed here when Hurley, Paulus and several other of our point guards have violently run into a pick at mid court, that's the fault of his teammates for not verbally telling him, whoever him happens to be, that the pick is there before he runs into it. And today's was legal with no forward motion by the picker - it was all Tyler's e=mV(squared) that caused him to go down like a brick. Interestingly enough, once a player does it, he doesn't seem to do it again...

Hope Tyler's OK. He did come back into the game after the time out so there were no immediate concussion signs!

[devildeac]

Hope he's alright, and hope Thornton doesn't also have one. He took a helluva hit from Raines on that late, full-court screen.

As has been discussed here when Hurley, Paulus and several other of our point guards have violently run into a pick at mid court, that's the fault of his teammates for not verbally telling him, whoever him happens to be, that the pick is there before he runs into it. And today's was legal with no forward motion by the picker - it was all Tyler's e=mV(squared) that caused him to go down like a brick. Interestingly enough, once a player does it, he doesn't seem to do it again...

Hope Tyler's OK. He did come back into the game after the time out so there were no immediate concussion signs!

I thought it looked like a legal screen with no shoulders/elbows or movement by the VT player. Hard and rough but legal.

[uh_no]

I thought it looked like a legal screen with no shoulders/elbows or movement by the VT player. Hard and rough but legal.

It also looked like mason was screaming and pointing, and ty perhaps didn't hear it

[Greg_Newton]

It also looked like mason was screaming and pointing, and ty perhaps didn't hear it

I think what happened was that Mason was turning and running back on defense - it being the last possession and all - rather than tracking and backpedalling with his man, yet Tyler was still pressing the ball. Mason yelled and pointed as soon as he turned around, but it was too late. I'm not really sure who's fault that is; I know they put it on Mason, but I'm not sure he knew Thornton was going to be pressing as closely as he was on that play.

[Indoor66]

It also looked like mason was screaming and pointing, and ty perhaps didn't hear it

I agree with you - Mason was yelling and was definitely pointing.

[GopherBlue]

It also looked like mason was screaming and pointing, and ty perhaps didn't hear it

Agree. I replayed it several times and in one angle you can definitely see Mason pointing and yelling to TT as his man jumped out to set what appeared to be a clean pick. With the crowd noise, there was virtually no way for TT to hear and respond to the warning (blame it on the Crazies). I was also annoyed by the way the TV commentators took MP2 to task, ad nauseum, for not calling out the pick. This was just one of those plays where nobody is at fault, and we should be thankful the TT was able to get up and shake it off.

It was also clear from the replay that the VT pick setter stood over TT for a second or two looking down and yelling "ohhhhhh" ( i'm a lip reader), as commented on the front page.

[Class of '94]

Like the article on the first page talked about, why is it taht VT always seems to do cheap shots at Duke players. Maybe I'm completely biased; but they never seem to be this physical or give out cheap shots to the other ACC teams; they always seem to do these punk moves against Duke. If someone can give examples of VT being very physical (to the point of being borderline dirty) with and taking cheap shots at other teams, please let me know. I would love to see VT play UNC they same way they do Duke; but it seems like the animosity that VT has for Duke is unparalleled in comparison to other teams like UNC. I wonder if Coach K joked around with VT's coach during pregame warmups like Roy does would help ease tensions.

Maybe it's a mental thing, but it appears to me that teams like VT and NC State play harder against duke than they do against other teams.

[Devilsfan]

Seth Greenberg doesn't recruit the highest profile basketball players in the country. He more often than not finds diamonds in the rough. Sometimes this means they are not the highest class citizens. He for the most part reforms or molds them into respectable players and for the most part builds character. This isn't always easy. I think others have noticed some of the character flaws in his players in the heat of battle and maybe that's why he has been punished when it comes to selection Sunday. I would bet he doesn't condone his players actions and handles it privately. Just my opinion.

[Lid]

Hairston will be held out tomorrow at Wake.

Feel better soon, Josh!

[Matches]

I was also annoyed by the way the TV commentators took MP2 to task, ad nauseum, for not calling out the pick.

For some reason the announcers seemed awfully convinced that TT was going to attack Mason in the locker room. I know TT's a tough dude, but attacking a guy who is almost a foot taller and has 50 pounds on you might be evidence of a head injury...

Glad TT was able to shake it off. He took quite a shot there. Mason definitely called it out but I couldn't tell on replay if he did so in time for TT to avoid the pick.

[gep]

I thought it looked like a legal screen with no shoulders/elbows or movement by the VT player. Hard and rough but legal.

Also... maybe it's my imagination... but when it happened, and on the replay, it looked to me like the VT player stopped playing and looked down at Tyler, seemingly to see if Tyler was OK. Very nice gesture, if that's what it really was

[devildeac]

Also... maybe it's my imagination... but when it happened, and on the replay, it looked to me like the VT player stopped playing and looked down at Tyler, seemingly to see if Tyler was OK. Very nice gesture, if that's what it really was

Interesting observation. Someone else (can't recall if it was in chat or here) thought he stood over TT in a "taunting" sense after he had leveled him with the screen. I will remain neutral as I could not tell either way.