Karl would have given a statement himself, but he had to run down to the orphanage quickly after the game so he could kick some kids before evicting the elderly from their homes.
Is it too much to ask that he be given the State-UNC game?
Eat Mor Jonny.
From what I have read and saw on the replay of the incident, Hess is clearly out of line.
I personally remember saying, ummm, yelling much worse things during my time at Cameron
sitting behind Dukes bench in the early 80's. Specifically, I told Lenny Wirtz to,......; wait,
this is a family forum so I won't repeat it. Lets just say that those who remember Lenny can
probably fill in the blanks.
- they have denied excessive or extreme behavior;
- the video clip (the end of the saga) does not appear to show excessive or extreme behavior;
- Yow seems perplexed;
- as do the internet reports of others who purport to have been there; and
- the ACC announcement does not detail the particulars of any excessive or extreme behavior.
From cbs sports:
10:18 p.m.: ACC supervisor of officials, John Clougherty, released a statement:
"Under Rule 10, when circumstances warrant, an official has the authority to request home game management to eject fans when the behavior, in the officials' judgement, is extreme or excessive. It's unfortunate in this instance that ACC protocol of communicating directly with the home game management was not followed, and instead, a building security officer was solicited. We will re-communicate this policy with all officials to ensure proper protocol is followed."
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I am so sick of officials being so full of themselves that they act as if they are part of the action. I long for the day when technology makes them obsolete.
Last night, I went to opening night for the Derby City Roller Girls and at one point, 7, yes SEVEN, of the ten skaters were in the penalty box! We didn't come to watch the zebras skate backwards, blow their whistles and point. We came to watch muscular, real sized women in fishnets and lipstick on wheels beat up on each other!
Let 'em roll REF! Jeez, I hope the ACC comes down appropriately and swiftly on Hess. He is obviously all up in his own head.
If being a fan were logical, we'd all be Duke fans but some of us were born to a different blue.
Here is a nice article on the game and the incident:
The Independent Weekly sports blog (Triangle Offense) provides excellent coverage of ACC basketball.
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This is more like politial careers, where you can stink and just keep going up.
* Unless, of course, that's what you mean by "exploding in your face" and I'm just being dense.
I think a lot of these issues are created because refs are allowing too much physical play, and this is an example.
I've railed on this before.
A foul is a foul is a foul. Call the ";/-!" fouls. They are not that hard to see. Hess or any other ref shouldn't inject themselves into "managing" the game. That's on the players by simply not fouling.
Let stuff go and games get out of control easily. Call a push, call a reach in hack and call the banging....the entire game. I hate games when you hear the refs "let 'em play".
If players don't adjust to not fouling, and wouldn't that be a novel approach, they will find the bench and we'll see who has quality depth. They would stop fouling out of necessity and the game would return to a fluid style that, for me, showcases the beauty of those big athletic guys play and away from the wrestling match the game has often become.
All that said...I agree Karl Hess should be sanctioned, (from the info I have), for basically a scratch some fans inflicted on his thin skin.
"An angry man catches no fish"-Zen proverb.
Just for the record. I don't know if you guys saw the WVU - Syracuse game a week or so ago where the refs missed a very blatant goal tending call with a couple seconds left in regulation that would have allowed WVU to tie the game. Even Boeheim apologized for the bad no call after the game. Yep, that ref was Karl Hess. Possibly the worst ref in the game today.
None of what I've said excuses Hess's actions though - unless they did threaten him.
can you throw guys out who have jerseys in the rafters? can't they throw HESS out?
"Either we're going down, or they are....... Kirk out!"