Originally Posted by
SCMatt33
There's no way that St. Louis is anywhere near a top 10 team. The margin based computers give them way too much credit for beating up on bad competition. I'm not saying that St. Louis is bad, but they have a pretty poor SOS, their best win is a pretty good win at Xavier, but their next best win is probably either Washington or Dayton. They don't have any terrible losses, with @LMU and @UMass being the worst, but I'd think you'd be hard pressed to call it a top 10 resume. The win/loss systems (RPI, Sagarin's ELO Chess) have them more in the 20's or 30's. The point wasn't just to pick out examples, but to kind of show that their are outliers in every system because of the individual biases of each that can be removed by considering them all on a consensus basis.
I'd argue this. They also lost to a Really good New Mexico team on the road only by 4 (a close game all the way appaerntly) and the A10 is a far better conference than people give credit this year...and St. Louis has mainly ripped through it. The only truly bad teams (think Wake or BC) in the conference are Fordham and Rhode Island, and St Louis hasn't played either team yet.
La Salle and St. Joes on the road are tough opponents, yet St. Louis just beat both and neither game was close...and they only have one truly bad loss, to UMass.
Do I think they're better than Duke? Maybe not, but I think it's certainly close and I'd be really worried if we were to face them.
EDIT: Put it this way: If they were named "Temple" instead of St. Louis, I think they'd get a lot more credibility.
<devildeac> anyone playing drinking games by now?
7:49:36<Wander> drink every qb run?
7:49:38<loran16> umm, drink every time asack rushes?
7:49:38<wolfybeard> @devildeac: drink when Asack runs a keeper
7:49:39 PM<CB&B> any time zack runs, drink
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