The Official Doug Gottlieb Has Lost It Vigil

[burnspbesq]

Zack Rosen is a better NBA prospect than Austin Rivers.

http://insider.espn.go.com/mens-coll...raft-big-board

Now we know that Linsanity has gone too far.

[G man]

I was going to start this thread if you had not. I hate the whole this guy likes to hate on Duke it makes us sound like a bunch of cry babies, but this dude is the definition of a hater. Austin and Mason are better than a bunch of dudes on this list. All I can say is wow what a d bag.

[diveonthefloor]

OK, now chant with me:

VISA...mastercard....VISA...mastercard
(continued until the target begins to cry.)

[BD80]

Exactly when did Gottlieb ever have "it" that he has now totally lost?

[jipops]

I have a hard time getting hot and bothered by some blowhard's opinion's on draft prospects.

[quakerdevil11]

The kid can play...

http://www.pennathletics.com/ViewArt...CLID=205377778

[Bluedog]

Am I the only Duke fan on the planet that almost actually likes Gottlieb? I often disagree with him and he has some digs at Duke, but he tells it like he sees it. I guess it's a style over substance thing, and I prefer his style over other ESPN guys like Len Elmore, Hubert Davis, etc. any day of the week. Having said that, I have no idea as to if Zack Rosen is a better NBA prospect than Austin as I've barely seen him play. Seems like Chad Forde is more in tune with what the NBA is looking for than Gottlieb, in my experience. DraftExpress is also pretty solid - they have Austin at 18 right now. I don't see Rosen at all there.

[burnspbesq]

The kid can play...

No one disputes that. First-team all-ivy for sure. But a first-round pick?

[Orange&BlackSheep]

The kid can play...

http://www.pennathletics.com/ViewArt...CLID=205377778

No one on Penn is ever any good. Just sayin'

Orange & Black Sheep

[Greg_Newton]

Doug Gottlieb @GottliebShow Reply Retweet Favorite · Open
Here it comes,threes,floorslapping,suspect charge/block calls---

Doug Gottlieb @GottliebShow Reply Retweet Favorite · Open
and now it is complete, 3s,floorslaps,suspect charge/block calls

Doug Gottlieb @GottliebShow Close
@tychamp22 Why they overhedged in a 1 point game--BS call,but why do it?

Doug Gottlieb @GottliebShow Reply Retweet Favorite · Open
We all agree that NC State loss was a worse gag than VTech? Stepping OOB?

[Duvall]

Doug Gottlieb @GottliebShow Reply Retweet Favorite · Open
Here it comes,threes,floorslapping,suspect charge/block calls---

Doug Gottlieb @GottliebShow Reply Retweet Favorite · Open
and now it is complete, 3s,floorslaps,suspect charge/block calls

Doug Gottlieb @GottliebShow Close
@tychamp22 Why they overhedged in a 1 point game--BS call,but why do it?

Doug Gottlieb @GottliebShow Reply Retweet Favorite · Open
We all agree that NC State loss was a worse gag than VTech? Stepping OOB?

It's a living.

[Bluedog]

Doug Gottlieb @GottliebShow Reply Retweet Favorite · Open
Here it comes,threes,floorslapping,suspect charge/block calls---

Doug Gottlieb @GottliebShow Reply Retweet Favorite · Open
and now it is complete, 3s,floorslaps,suspect charge/block calls

Doug Gottlieb @GottliebShow Close
@tychamp22 Why they overhedged in a 1 point game--BS call,but why do it?

Doug Gottlieb @GottliebShow Reply Retweet Favorite · Open
We all agree that NC State loss was a worse gag than VTech? Stepping OOB?

Ok, maybe I rescind what I said above. That's pretty bad...

[FerryFor50]

Doug Gottlieb @GottliebShow Reply Retweet Favorite · Open
Here it comes,threes,floorslapping,suspect charge/block calls---

Doug Gottlieb @GottliebShow Reply Retweet Favorite · Open
and now it is complete, 3s,floorslaps,suspect charge/block calls

Doug Gottlieb @GottliebShow Close
@tychamp22 Why they overhedged in a 1 point game--BS call,but why do it?

Doug Gottlieb @GottliebShow Reply Retweet Favorite · Open
We all agree that NC State loss was a worse gag than VTech? Stepping OOB?

They don't even really slap the floor anymore... that's the funny part.

[hurleyfor3]

Wow, at least when Stuart Scott gets a beat-down he mans up about it.

[Exiled_Devil]

They don't even really slap the floor anymore... that's the funny part.

Austin slapped the floor when it was down to single digits. It was a beautiful thing.

[FerryFor50]

Austin slapped the floor when it was down to single digits. It was a beautiful thing.

Missed that one... but overall it's not like it used to be. Which is why it's as played out to say as it is to say "Duke gets all the calls."

Stats just don't back it up.

[Ichabod Drain]

They don't even really slap the floor anymore... that's the funny part.

http://dukeblueplanet.smugmug.com/20...1401&k=VvRTqPx

[mph]

This is the same guy who less than two weeks ago was on ESPN making the argument that Kansas/Missouri is the best rivalry in college basketball, not just this year, but historically. As evidence he offered that the roots of the rivalry go back to the pre-Civil War animosity between the two states.

For many analysts tasked with talking about one topic for a living, the temptation to say something different and clever can lead them to say some bizarrely stupid things. Gottlieb is the poster boy for this problem.

[Billy Dat]

For many analysts tasked with talking about one topic for a living, the temptation to say something different and clever can lead them to say some bizarrely stupid things. Gottlieb is the poster boy for this problem.

I think this is a huge problem across the media landscape. I actually really like Gottlieb. I think he is smart and knows more about more teams across the land than the majority of announcers. I hate to single out JDubs, but the insight and analysis he provides, to me, is several grades below Gottlieb (same goes for Hubert Davis, Adrian Branch, etc.), and I attribute that to the fact the Gottlieb comes from a coaching family and grew up thinking and analyzing the game.

But, to your point, the modern media landscape has radically changed. A journalist or TV talking head's "brand" value is measured in new terms, such as number social media friends and followers. Vanilla opinions don't generate a following. When it's time for Gottlieb to re-up with ESPN, that following constitutes part of his negotiating leverage. That's not to say you shouldn't say what you believe, but it does seem to pay to be provocative - and Duke is one of the most polarizing and provocative college bball brands out there.

[sagegrouse]

I think this is a huge problem across the media landscape. I actually really like Gottlieb. I think he is smart and knows more about more teams across the land than the majority of announcers. I hate to single out JDubs, but the insight and analysis he provides, to me, is several grades below Gottlieb (same goes for Hubert Davis, Adrian Branch, etc.), and I attribute that to the fact the Gottlieb comes from a coaching family and grew up thinking and analyzing the game.

But, to your point, the modern media landscape has radically changed. A journalist or TV talking head's "brand" value is measured in new terms, such as number social media friends and followers. Vanilla opinions don't generate a following. When it's time for Gottlieb to re-up with ESPN, that following constitutes part of his negotiating leverage. That's not to say you shouldn't say what you believe, but it does seem to pay to be provocative - and Duke is one of the most polarizing and provocative college bball brands out there.

I agree totally with your post. I would add one thing: Gottlieb appears to be on for three hours a day, five days a week. Is this true? He's gotta be sputtering total nonsense some of the time to have half a chance of filling all three hours.

sage