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  1. #101
    Quote Originally Posted by niveklaen View Post
    I think we are all overlooking the fact that Roy developed the greatest wing player of all time - MJ
    I think this is a joke right? I mean, first Roy was an assistant coach, Dean Smith coached MJ. An even if you do want to credit Roy for coaching MJ at UNC the running joke for the last 20 plus years was that Dean (or Roy if you prefer) was the only person that could hold MJ to under 20 points a game.

    Developed MJ?? How about kept him from being as good as he should have been in college? MJ wasn't developed by anyone. He was born with amazing God given talent and a unequaled competative desire to win. Those are gifts not developments. What wasn't developed was character, humility or executive skills. If what MJ had on the court could be developed, there would be a lot more MJ's.

    As far as the best player ever... that is a subjective argument that no one will win so if you think he was the best then to you he was the best... I think Pistol Pete was the best, but who am I going to convince of that?

  2. #102
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    Quote Originally Posted by oldnavy View Post
    I think Pistol Pete was the best, but who am I going to convince of that?
    when the comparison is SOOOOO close, you wind up going with the guy that you LIKE the best...i loved pistol pete and i'll vote for him...however, if they had let david thompson dunk the ball, i may have greater conflict...

    alcindor and bill walton are in this convo as well...
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  3. #103
    Quote Originally Posted by moonpie23 View Post
    when the comparison is SOOOOO close, you wind up going with the guy that you LIKE the best...i loved pistol pete and i'll vote for him...however, if they had let david thompson dunk the ball, i may have greater conflict...

    alcindor and bill walton are in this convo as well...
    To be totally truthful IF I was forced to vote for the greatest college player of all time, it would be David Thompson. Not only did I get to see him play in person several times at Duke, I never saw a player who could leap like he could.

    However, Pistol Pete was a scoring machine and was the most creative offensive player of all time. He would put ANY current or past player college or NBA player to shame on the offensive end of the court. Think about this for a second. He AVERAGED 44.5 ppg. UNC fans go apoplectic because HB scored 40 in one game. He is the all time NCAA leading scorer, having averaged over 1100 points a year. We celebrate players that score 1000 points in their careers now (as we should). NOW the really amazing part about this is he did it when you could not play as a Freshman so he did this in only 83 games over 3 years. He did this without the three point shot, and the next player on the all time scoring list scored 218 fewer points than Pete despite playing in 23 more games than Pete did. Plus Pete averaged 5 assists per game as well. Probably the greatest player that hardly anyone talks about.

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