Had he scored at the same level w/o Kendall as with, I think most people would agree he was really good in his two years. I would say that Kendall and Zeller were the real outstanding players in that group of heels.
Had Barnes taken the reins when Kendall went down, and dropped 20+ points the rest of the way, I think people would have a better opinion of him. Problem is, not only did he not do that he actually disappeared. Were it not for Bullock, they get beat by Ohio.
Honestly, Barnes was one of the strangest college players in a long time.
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I would also like to add that Nova University in Florida is certainly more highly regarded than either Florida or U of M.
For what it's worth, US News ranks Miami higher than UF, while Forbes considers Florida better.
Warriors' first exhibition game, a win in Fresno against the Lakers. Plenty of time to see if this is what his season looks like or whether he'll be a dud.
24 minutes, 3-5 from the floor, 2 rebs and 2 TOs. Box, as if anyone cares.
I'm actually getting very worried that Florida could end up stealing Parker at the last moment. Consider this:
1. Florida already has commits from the #8 and #9 players in the 2013 class, PG Kasey Hill and PF Chris Walker, two players who would seem to compliment Parker quite nicely.
2. Duke's squad in 2013 will feature a slew of other talented wing players, including, but not limited to: Rasheed Sulaimon, Matt Jones, Semi Ojeley, Rodney Hood, Andre Dawkins, and Alex Murphy, meaning Parker may be forced to play an awful lot as a PF, which will not be his natural position in the pros.
3. Florida has a proven and rock solid center in Patric Young (provided he stays for his senior year), as well as other guys like Will Yeguette who are experienced and can man most of the minutes in the paint, meaning Jabari can play all of his minutes on the perimeter as a SF, his natural position.
4. Florida is his last visit (I think, not totally sure), meaning Billy Donovan gets the last word in before he makes his decision. Also, the Florida visit will be most clear in his mind, while the Duke which is his first visit, will be more than a month in the past.
I'm really starting to get nervous . . . Florida seems to be a great choice for basketball reasons. Sorry if I'm being paranoid here, but I just don't think I can handle missing out on another recruit like this. I used to be confident that we could snag these high character guys, but after losing to Carolina of all places on Harrison Barnes, I just don't know anymore . . .
Don't reach, youngblood . . .
I am biased. But HB feed the hype machine like few others have, so I take a much harder look at him. He scored, I'll give you that, but in the other areas of the game he was average at best.
And, I will have to disagree with those who think he should have be ROY, Marshall was the clear choice for that given UNC's performance after he took over at point. I do not think that it matters that he only started half the year, he was the best freshman in the league by a wide margin in my opinion. Did Barnes make anyone on the court better? Marshall made everyone on the court better.
With him, we are a virtual lock for a #1 seed and a huge favorite to reach the Final 4. Without him, we'll still have a great shot at a #1 or #2 seed, but final four expectations definitely won't be as prevalent. I think we'll be on the outside looking in as far as title favorites. UK will almost certainly still have more NBA talent with the Harrison twins and whoever else they grab (Probably Julius Randle and Andrew Wiggins).
It's like the media always says, we're Duke, we aren't satisfied with conference championships and final fours. We want national championships every year. Jabari is the best best to take us there. Do I think we can win it all without him? Maybe . . . if a ton of things fall our way, but realistically, against a team with 4 or 5 lottery picks like UK . . . how much of a chance do we really have without a star player like Jabari Parker? A squad of mostly top 30 high school players will have a tough time beating a team of mostly NBA players.
In an age where John Calipari gets just about every player he wants, I think if want to be in the hunt for title #5, Jabari Parker is one of Duke's most important recruits ever. WE NEED THIS GUY.
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Don't reach, youngblood . . .
Don't get me wrong. I'd love love love it were we to get Jabari Parker, and he would unquestionably make us a much better team and he seems like a great fit for our school and our basketball program. But we would be very strong without him, and indeed be competing for championships without him as well.
I was mistaken on the order of Jabari's visits. The correct order is this:
I'm still uneasy about Florida, even though nobody seems to be talking about them as much as MSU/Duke/BYU
Don't reach, youngblood . . .
Do I want him? Sure. Do we "NEED THIS GUY?" Seems like a stretch. I'm a little weary of hearing hearing every year that if we don't get John Wall, Harrison Barnes, Parker... we might as well not show up the following year. We've got a good team.
Doesn't mean we can't win, and having Parker would certainly make it more likely than without him, but even accepting your premise I don't think he's a "must have" recruit.
Also, I think its important for people on this board to remember that 2010 and 2012 was the exception, not the rule. Before 2010, no team had ever won a championship without someone being selected in that years nba draft, correct? and before last year, none of calipari's uber talented freshman led teams had ever won a title. but i think its equally important for us Duke fans to realize that the landscape of cbball has changed, and that it is helpful for teams to have those really talented freshman, even if they only stay for a year. Here's to JP coming to Duke. If he doesnt, we move on. We've won with less talented squads before.