For what it's worth, the concept of Paterno knowing everything that goes on or has gone on with any relevance to the football program is contrary to the gripes of many Penn State football fans who have said going back to at least 2000 that Paterno had lost his touch, was not as sharp or energetic as he had been, and should have retired from the job much earlier.
Again, Paterno did testify under oath to the grand jury, and was found to be credible. At some point, we should learn more about just what he said.
He's obviously been the face of Penn State football and his reputation is tarnished by this scandal and his abrupt departure. But how much blame should really go toward him?
I believe that a decision was made to protect Penn State first when the pedofile was caught raping the boy in the shower and I believe everyone from the President of Penn State down to Paterno was in on the coverup. In the end, it's all about money and nothing else.
He's some interesting thoughts on it and some facts I didn't know..
Maybe his lawyer understands the beast within.Sandusky's lawyer, ... Joe Amendola got his 16 year old client pregnant. ... 16 is the age of consent in Pennsylvania
This whole thing has become so macabre. A lawyer having sex with his client his despicable - because of the nature of the relationship and the trust the client is encouraged to place in the lawyer. That abuse was multiplied by the adult/child dynamic. Beyond creepy.
But still, why is Sandusky's lawyer's history an issue? Isn't it more relevant that the complaining witness "Victim 1" has a lawyer and his mother is giving interviews? What is the statute of limitations for a civil action? "Victim 1" alleged the contact ended in spring of 2008. Will they have to file suit before the criminal trial, giving the testimony a pecuniary taint?
For those that haven't seen the story, now, in addition to the allegations at The Citadel, a potential victim is now alleging that a Syracuse Assistant BBall coach molested him. http://espn.go.com/espn/otl/story/_/...ting-boy-1980s
Ff anything positive comes out of the PSU situation I wonder if it will be victims all around the country feeling compelled to come forward.
Another ugly situation and reports of sexual abuse, this time from gymnastics.
Former U.S. Olympic Gymnastics Coach Banned After Sex Abuse Allegations
In a week already marred with a mounting sexual abuse scandal at Penn State, a former U.S. Olympic gymnastics coach has had his coaching privileges permanently revoked and has been kicked out of the sport's Hall of Fame following an investigation into sexual abuse allegations.
Don Peters, 62, who led the 1984 U.S. Olympic women's gymnastics team with all-around champion Mary Lou Retton and coached many gymnasts to medal podiums over several of decades, has been listed as "permanently ineligible" for membership by USA Gymnastics, the nation's governing body of the sport. The action means he can no longer work or volunteer at more than 2,000 member clubs across the country.
Well, if there's one positive to come out of all of this, maybe it's that a bunch of child molesters across the country get put behind bars. Seems like the PSU situation has given more people courage to come forward in their respective situations.
Penn State: Danger in the unknown
And with that, it is official: Public ignorance has become the currency of the Sandusky scandal. Not willful ignorance, although surely there have been ample amounts of that, but a more ordinary, everyday, lack-of-basic-information, we-just-don't-have-it-yet type of ignorance. It is terrifyingly obvious that many people are operating off shards of factoids and little else, and drawing broad conclusions based upon those shards, and generally not knowing very much with absolute certainty, because the case so far doesn't allow for that.
The scandal involving Jerry Sandusky and Penn State might not travel the same path as the Duke story did. It is not the same story. It certainly might not be subject to a legal reversal on the scale of the Duke case.
What the stories share, though, is a strikingly similar sort of venal public response, a certain "they're all guilty as sin" quality that permeates so much of the national conversation. If nothing else, recent history suggests that at least a modicum of restraint today might prove wise later on. Here's hoping it doesn't get lost in all the shouting.
I followed links from that article to this one about Mike McQueary.
There's some statements from a former FBI employee who worked specifically with child abuse. Here's a few choice ones:
This seems a lot like what was said, way upthread (quoting in its entirety, because I think it is worth reading):Turner said most adults have never even seen a photo of a man having sexual relations with a young boy, much less witnessed it. Further complicating things, Turner said, was the fact that Sandusky was seen as a role model in the community and someone McQueary had known nearly his entire life.
"You're trying to comprehend something your brain can't handle," Turner said. "You can't rationalize it. Compute it. Handle it. Most people turn around and walk away. And then they try to figure out, 'Oh my God. What the hell did I just see?' The people who say they would go in there and break it up? They're wrong. Nine times out of 10, that's just not how the human brain works."
The NCAA has now gotten involved officially, and will investigate "institutional control" issues at Penn State relating to the Sandusky scandal.
Letter of Inquiry to Penn State President Erickson
More bad news.
Joe Paterno has lung cancer.
Prosecutors change timeline in Sandusky case, saying McQueary incident happened in 2001, not 2002
While allegations against Sandusky will proceed, this timeline may bring into play the statute of limitations for allegations against Penn State officials Curley and Schultz.Prosecutors no longer thinking that Mike McQueary saw Jerry Sandusky sexually assaulting a boy in a Penn State locker room the night before spring break in 2002.
Instead, new evidence shows what McQueary saw happened instead in February 2001, the attorney general's office said in court paperwork filed today.
In the motion, the prosecutor alludes that the change does not affect the allegations of a crime.
Also seems to call into question the credibility of McQueary.
Oh, so this is great news! We can maybe sweep this whole thing under the carpet on a timeline technicality. Awesome.
Yeah, but not really. Because little boys were raped in the Penn Sate locker room. But hey, time expired. Next play.
Not for a minute.
Hold them accountable forever, for the full extend of the law, and beyond into social and polite society.
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Someone a lot smarter than you or me once said that it's better that a thousand guilty men go free than that one innocent man be wrongly punished.
If you were accused of a crime, you would want every procedural safeguard that you are so eager to deny to Jerry Sandusky.
Please, folks, let's not turn this discussion into a policy debate.
As news-worthy and discussion-worthy as this story is, I prefer not to be reminded of these shockingly horrendous accusations every time I drop by for an update on the worlds greatest athletics program on the EK board.
Justice sometimes works, still.
If being a fan were logical, we'd all be Duke fans but some of us were born to a different blue.