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    Duke finishes 5th in final Director's Cup Standings

    From Duke press release.


    "Duke finished in fifth place in the final Division I Learfield Sports Directors' CupStandings, released on Friday by the National Association of CollegiateDirectors of Athletics.

    Overall, Duke ranked behind Stanford, Ohio State, California and Florida. Duke placed second among private schools behind only Stanford, which was firstfor the 17th consecutive year.

    The Directors’ Cup rankings measure an athletic program’s comprehensive sports success by totaling points based on a team’s finish in national competition.

    Duke’s 1171.50 points marked the highest figure in school history, surpassing the previous best total of 1021.25 in 2005, while the fifth place finish matched the best showing in school history. Duke also placed fifth in 2005. Additionally, this was the fifth top 10 finish for the Blue Devils
    (1999, 2005, 2006, 2010 & 2011) and a five-place improvement over 2010. Duke has placed among the top 20 schools in eight consecutive years.

    Duke ranked first among Atlantic Coast Conference schools, 10.75 points ahead of North Carolina (sixth; 1160.75). Virginia(seventh; 1092.00) was next, followed by Florida State (ninth; 1079.00),Maryland (17th; 858.00), Virginia Tech (45th; 500.50),Clemson (47th; 485.50), Miami
    (51st; 416.50), GeorgiaTech (59th; 350.75), Boston College (64th; 322.00); N.C.State (67th; 312.00) and Wake Forest (74th; 261.50).

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    Quote Originally Posted by jimsumner View Post
    From Duke press release.


    "Duke finished in fifth place in the final Division I Learfield Sports Directors' CupStandings, released on Friday by the National Association of CollegiateDirectors of Athletics.

    Overall, Duke ranked behind Stanford, Ohio State, California and Florida. Duke placed second among private schools behind only Stanford, which was firstfor the 17th consecutive year.

    The Directors’ Cup rankings measure an athletic program’s comprehensive sports success by totaling points based on a team’s finish in national competition.

    Duke’s 1171.50 points marked the highest figure in school history, surpassing the previous best total of 1021.25 in 2005, while the fifth place finish matched the best showing in school history. Duke also placed fifth in 2005. Additionally, this was the fifth top 10 finish for the Blue Devils
    (1999, 2005, 2006, 2010 & 2011) and a five-place improvement over 2010. Duke has placed among the top 20 schools in eight consecutive years.

    Duke ranked first among Atlantic Coast Conference schools, 10.75 points ahead of North Carolina (sixth; 1160.75). Virginia(seventh; 1092.00) was next, followed by Florida State (ninth; 1079.00),Maryland (17th; 858.00), Virginia Tech (45th; 500.50),Clemson (47th; 485.50), Miami
    (51st; 416.50), GeorgiaTech (59th; 350.75), Boston College (64th; 322.00); N.C.State (67th; 312.00) and Wake Forest (74th; 261.50).
    Once again, just like the old "Basic Math" t-shirt: Duke > unc. (Yea, I know they finish above us regularly but we can enjoy this for a year now.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by devildeac View Post

    Once again, just like the old "Basic Math" t-shirt: Duke > unc. (Yea, I know they finish above us regularly but we can enjoy this for a year now.)
    To me the real point is that Duke finishes 1st in the ACC and 5th in the country with a fraction of the budget of much of these much larger state schools that have significantly more resources -- 5x (or more) of the student and alumni bases, state monies and big facillities advantages, extra scholarships to throw around, etc., etc. That is just remarkable. Does anyone have a good, quick reference to the comparative size of the athletic budgets and/or alumni bases/giving for these top-rated schools?

    A true feather in the cap of A.D. White and the whole Athletic Deoartment, all while continuing to be among the tops in graduation rates of athletes too.

    -BDBD

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    Good day to send in my Iron Dukes Pledge Card for this coming year!
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    Quote Originally Posted by -bdbd View Post
    To me the real point is that Duke finishes 1st in the ACC and 5th in the country with a fraction of the budget of much of these much larger state schools that have significantly more resources -- 5x (or more) of the student and alumni bases, state monies and big facillities advantages, extra scholarships to throw around, etc., etc. That is just remarkable. Does anyone have a good, quick reference to the comparative size of the athletic budgets and/or alumni bases/giving for these top-rated schools?

    A true feather in the cap of A.D. White and the whole Athletic Deoartment, all while continuing to be among the tops in graduation rates of athletes too.

    Good questions.

    From statefannation in 2009:

    ================= ATLANTIC COAST CONFERENCE =================
    ---------------------------------------------------------------
    Athletic Yrs at No. of Dept. Guaranteed
    School Director School Teams Budget Base
    ---------------------------------------------------------------
    Georgia Tech Dan Radakovich 3 17 $56.0M $560,000
    Clemson Terry Don Phillips 6 19 $53.2M $418,000
    Maryland Deborah Yow 15 27 $61.0M $382,575
    Florida State Randy Spetman 1 17 $51.0M $350,000
    Virginia Tech Jim Weaver 12 21 $53.5M $345,211
    Virginia Craig Littlepage 8 25 $56.2M $320,000
    N. Carolina Dick Baddour 12 28 $61.4M $295,000
    NC State Lee Fowler 9 23 $39.0M $280,000
    ---------------------------------------------------------------
    ACC Average 8 22 $53.9M $368,848
    ---------------------------------------------------------------
    (apparently private schools Miami, Duke and BC do not report their numbers)
    Excluding NC State, each ACC team budgets about $56.04 Million on the average. NC State, at $39 Million, runs its athletics at a rate of roughly 70% of the rest of the conference. An easy counter-argument would be that NC State fields fewer teams, but as you can see, there are four schools (GT, Clemson, FSU, VT) that have higher athletic budgets with fewer teams than NC State.
    We posted these numbers before, but let’s once again look at the Director’s Cup Standings:
    ACC:
    4. UNC
    5. Wake Forest
    9. Maryland
    11. UVA
    15. FSU
    18. Duke
    27. BC
    63. VT
    68. Clemson
    91. NC State
    93. GT (has a new AD)
    94. Miami (has a new AD)
    Interesting, and it seems that there is a correllation at least in our case: we’re getting what we pay for. While it is true that NC State raises far fewer dollars than UNC, it outraises Duke:
    With 28 varsity sports, [UNC] is one of the country’s largest athletic programs. It raised $51 million in pledges or donations for athletics last year, alone.Among other ACC schools, North Carolina State University placed 14th on the list, with more than $27 million in donations received last year. Duke placed 17th, with nearly $25.5 million.
    Among other ACC schools, North Carolina State University placed 14th on the list, with more than $27 million in donations received last year. Duke placed 17th, with nearly $25.5 million.
    Here’s an older table that shows a good picture of ACC booster clubs’ fundraising:
    Atlantic Coast Conference
    Athletics
    donations
    in 2006
    Overall rank
    in
    athletics
    donations
    Amount raised
    in capital
    campaigns
    for athletics
    in
    past 5 years
    Goal of
    current
    capital
    campaign
    for
    athletics
    Full-time
    athletics
    fund
    raisers
    UNC
    $51,000,000
    1
    $230,000,000
    --
    20
    UVA
    $45,240,112
    2
    $188,100,000
    --
    19
    FSU
    $29,100,000
    11
    $155,300,000
    $110,000,000
    6
    NCSU
    $27,254,723
    14
    $125,625,000
    --
    16
    Duke
    $25,495,000
    17
    $150,000,000
    --
    15
    GT
    $25,000,000
    18
    --
    $125,000,000
    8
    VT
    $23,680,688
    19
    $22,300,000
    --
    6
    Clemson
    $23,160,000
    22
    $27,000,000
    --
    6
    Miami
    $19,200,000
    29
    $63,000,000
    $70,000,000
    9
    BC
    $19,000,000
    31
    $64,000,000
    --
    8
    Wake Forest
    $12,692,782
    46
    $63,000,000
    $87,000,000
    9
    Maryland
    --
    --
    --
    --
    the numbers seem to speak for themselves.

    Could not find any other good source while googling around for a bit. Sorry for the alignment (or lack thereof) of the 2nd table. Not one of my strengths. My feeble memory from 3-5 years ago faintly recalls unc spending about 250 mil and the good guys about 175 mil but not sure how those figures were obtained/calculated. I believe they have more sports/athletes/team but we obviously have higher costs/athlete with our tuition being >40K/year beginning next month.

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