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    Duke Football: Biggest Question For 2011

    Unlike most Duke fans, I am probably a bigger supporter of our football team than I am our basketball team. This article talks about the biggest question for every team in the ACC Coastal Division entering 2011. They absolutely nailed it with us. Our front seven is going to have to play a lot better if we want to reach a bowl.

    http://www.5thdownfootball.com

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    With Jim Knowles switching the Blue Devils to a 4-2-5 defensive scheme, one of the unproven linebackers will have a chance to step up and earn the lone starting spot next to Kelby Brown.


    The move to the 4-2-5 should help Duke’s defense tremendously. The Blue Devils have a lot of depth and talent at the safety position, and the current plan is to slide Duke’s best defensive player, Matt Daniels, down into a hybrid outside linebacker-safety position in order to get Duke’s best players on the field.

    Thanks for the link. I thought this was interesting, and it seems to coincide with Cut's emphasis on speed. But I do not pretend to be extremely well-versed in the 4-2-5.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cfbnut1 View Post
    Unlike most Duke fans, I am probably a bigger supporter of our football team than I am our basketball team. This article talks about the biggest question for every team in the ACC Coastal Division entering 2011. They absolutely nailed it with us. Our front seven is going to have to play a lot better if we want to reach a bowl.

    http://www.5thdownfootball.com
    I agree with the assessment for the most part. I though, thought Campbell and Gamble held there own being so young playing linebacker. I thought they did well especially considering that the defensive line was getting knocked back into the line backing core a lot. This knocked the backers out of a lot of plays, or forced them to make a lot of plays downfield.

    I think switching to a 4-2-5 is a good idea, because the attempts at playing a 3-4 just failed miserably as Duke didn't have the personell. I can see why they tried it but it just didn't work. With depth in the defensive backfield it makes sense. Thanks for the link.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OldPhiKap View Post
    Thanks for the link. I thought this was interesting, and it seems to coincide with Cut's emphasis on speed. But I do not pretend to be extremely well-versed in the 4-2-5.
    4-2-5 as you are probably aware incorporates 4 down linemen, two linebackers and 5 DBs. This allows for the line to try to get pressure in the offensive backfield and experiement with linebacker blitz packages. Playing 5 DBs is an effort to be aggressive up front and hope the DBs can pick up the slack and make tackles if something gets through and provide good coverage downfield.

    The upside is it is aggressive. The downside is Duke's downfield coverage was suspect last year. There is a lot of depth though and hopefully with a year under their belt they will be wiser and can makes some plays.

    Also if the line and backers can't make plays and the DBs get stretched you open up the middle of the field for big running plays with no backers plugging the middle in the case of of a blitz. So it is risk and reward but I think it will be better than the attempts at a 3-4 that failed last year.

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    4-2-5

    This tactical change is overblown from an x-and-o standpoint. Duke has run a 3-safety set for a majority of the downs over the last two seasons.

    I agree that the key is the front seven. mkline is right that Duke's downfield coverage has been suspect, but I'm not sure how much of that problem was inferior DBs and how much of it was an absolute absence of a pass rush.

    I think our safeties are solid -- and the depth there is good. I can live with the cornerbacks.

    My concern are the young guys who will have to play on the DL and at LB. About the only guys who are solid are DT Charlie Hatcher and LB Kelby Brown. But we have some young guys who had to play before they were ready last year, but that doesn't mean they don't have potential -- DE Justin Foxx, DT Sidney Sarmiento, LB Austin Gamble have promise. I feel the same about Cockrell at CB -- he made a lot of mistakes last year, but he also showed a lot of promise.

    But those guys aren't enough. The key are the redshirts from last year's deep crop. Jordan DeWalt-Ondjio and Dez Johnson are great looking DEs. Jamal Bruce, Nick Sink and Jamal Wallace are promising DL guys. Will Bryant and Steve Ingram are huge DTs.

    I don't expect those guys to be great right away. That's the problem -- the offense is almost there (last year, Renfree paid his dues at QB and the OL took a big step forward. The special teams -- remember what a mess they were when Cut arrived? -- are in good hand.

    If the defense was at that level, I'd be making bowl plans. It's not and that's a concern. I'm praying for the kids to grow up quickly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Olympic Fan View Post
    I agree that the key is the front seven. mkline is right that Duke's downfield coverage has been suspect, but I'm not sure how much of that problem was inferior DBs and how much of it was an absolute absence of a pass rush.
    I was about to raise the same question, as I think the bigger issue was lack of consistent pressure up front.

    Improving is a process, and Cut started from a pretty low point. So onwards we grow. But man o man would it be nice to have a real "turn the corner" season.

    In many ways, I think the biggest question facing Duke football this year is: How do we play in (and if necessary, recover from) the Stanford game? The Alabama game last year knocked us back for a month it seemed -- there were some opportunities in the post-'Bama games that seemed to elude us due to lack of confidence. Just one man's opinion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Olympic Fan View Post
    This tactical change is overblown from an x-and-o standpoint. Duke has run a 3-safety set for a majority of the downs over the last two seasons.

    I agree that the key is the front seven. mkline is right that Duke's downfield coverage has been suspect, but I'm not sure how much of that problem was inferior DBs and how much of it was an absolute absence of a pass rush.

    I think our safeties are solid -- and the depth there is good. I can live with the cornerbacks.
    I definitely can agree with that. I don't necessarily think our DB's shortcoming last season were all their fault. They had a lot of young guys and with the line not getting any pressure to speak of, most QBs had all day to throw. Never good for a DB no matter how good they are.

    I think that lack of pressure was due in part to the 3-4 which thankfully is being scrapped. I think the 4-2-5 takes pressure of the DBs and hopefully will get some pressure on opposing QBs.

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    Matt Daniels preseason honors

    Preseason honors mean nothing but it is good to see a Duke football player, and with all this discussion of DBs, it is a defensive back getting some recognition. Matt Daniels the Duke safety has been put on the Lott Impact Player Watch List.

    The article is mostly about Meineke dropping Charlotte for its host city for its name sake bowl. Scroll down a bit to see the bit on Daniels.

    http://www.newsobserver.com/2011/04/...s-nc-bowl.html

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