Originally Posted by
Chitowndevil
Exactly. This is apples to oranges.
There is no evidence Newton was aware of any violations. There is not even evidence he or his family actually received anything of monetary value.
No one is arguing Kanter was paid, and if one believes statements by his former team, we know exactly how much. The NCAA ruling was that the value of his compensation exceeded a threshold based on cost of living and other expenses. I can't see how one case has any bearing on the other.
"The Awareness Standard" is a joke. Really, if the NCAA is correct on Newton, then I don't see how a player couldn't simply play for whoever and let his dad do any negotiating, while maintaining purposeful ignorance.
As for how they have bearing, think of it this way. If Kanter wasn't paying his own bills, which I'd bet his parents were taking care of, you COULD ARGUE THAT HE probably didn't know that the amount being paid to him was more than would be necessary for his support. Which brings us straight to the Auburn ruling.
Note: the Newton ruling did NOT stand upon whether Newton got paid. It standed on that the place asking for his eligibility, Auburn, didn't pay, and that Newton didn't know of his father's plan. You could argue the same thing with Kanter, with Kentucky taking the place of Auburn.
Originally Posted by
4decadedukie
Jason - You're right, there are significant differences, all of which appear to make the UK/Calipari/Kanter rationale even more strained than Auburn's/Newton's. The shamelessness, the temerity, and the ludicrousness of individuals like the Reverend Newton and Coach Calipari makes me wonder if their parents taught them anything about common sense decency.
Warm regards.
Can we stop with this? I hate Calipari. He's clearly in the past shown no problem recruiting people who were clearly going to be ineligible with the hope that no one would notice.
THIS WASN'T SUCH A CASE. There is nothing unethical about taking an extra scholarship that would otherwise go unused, using it on a player with questionable eligibility, and letting the player's eligibility be decided by the NCAA preseason. Unlike the Bledsoe and Rose situations, he wasn't trying to sneak anything by anyone here.
Plenty of things to slam Calipari for. This isn't one of them.
<devildeac> anyone playing drinking games by now?
7:49:36<Wander> drink every qb run?
7:49:38<loran16> umm, drink every time asack rushes?
7:49:38<wolfybeard> @devildeac: drink when Asack runs a keeper
7:49:39 PM<CB&B> any time zack runs, drink
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