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    Quote Originally Posted by sagegrouse View Post
    [URL="http://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/terps/bs-sp-terps-fridge-1221-20101220,0,2779974.story"]...
    BTW the article makes it possible to unravel Maryland's thought processes. It had decided that James Franklin was not the answer, and so didn't attempt to retain him as the new head coach, as had been Debbie Yow's plan. Franklin was the #1 recruiter, and then when he left for Vandy, Friedgen would have to rebuild his staff, which was impossible with just a one-year extension. Thus, a new coach was needed. ... sagegrouse
    I would take it a little further: Maryland had decided Franklin was not the answer *and, importantly, let him know that so he would look elsewhere* and then didn't attempt to retain him....

    As has been pointed out, Maryland could have:
    (1) kept Fridge for 2011 and Franklin for 2012;
    (2) kept Fridge indefinitely, paid Franklin $1m, and then maybe turned to Franklin (or not) when Fridge was done;
    (3) acted surprised when Franklin jumped ship, and pretended that set in motion a chain of events; or
    (4) pushed Franklin by telling him he'd never be the HC, then pushed Fridge.

    Maryland did #4. They are spinning it as #3. Hence, the accurate "lying weasel" name.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sagegrouse View Post
    This article linked on the ACC Roundup today shows that the ouster of Friedgen was weeks in the making. Moreover, AD Anderson denies that ex-Texas Tech coach Mike Leach is the leading candidate, saying only that there will be a nationwide search and he expects to have a coach on board by Jan. 4. Yeah, you lying weasel! From the linked article:

    "Anderson is interested enough in Leach that he has begun researching his credentials, including his former players' graduation rates. But Anderson insisted there was no frontrunner and said he had never met or contacted Leach. Leach has said he would talk to Maryland about the position."

    Now here is a Sally Jenkins column (daughter of Sage's idol, Dan Jenkins) from a year ago at the time of Leach's dismissal at Texas Tech. She said that Leach was railroaded and deserved another gig. So, Anderson has begun researching Leach's graduation rate, he said. Here's a passage from the Jenkins column:

    "More importantly, he's a serious, demanding educator whose team has a graduation rate of 79 percent, eighth best in the country and first in the Big 12 Conference. He trails only Notre Dame (94 percent), Stanford (93), Boston College (92), Duke (92), Northwestern (92), Vanderbilt (91) and Wake Forest (83) in turning out grads, while he also has made nine bowl appearances in nine years."

    Moreover, Texas Tech was numero uno among public universities in graduation rates. So, Leach is not the leading candidate, eh? And you just happened to mention graduation rates? Take it to the bank; it's gonna be Mike Leach at Maryland.

    BTW the article makes it possible to unravel Maryland's thought processes. It had decided that James Franklin was not the answer, and so didn't attempt to retain him as the new head coach, as had been Debbie Yow's plan. Franklin was the #1 recruiter, and then when he left for Vandy, Friedgen would have to rebuild his staff, which was impossible with just a one-year extension. Thus, a new coach was needed.

    This gives too much credit for honest debate at Maryland. In fact, the fix was in from the moment that Mike Leach was railroaded out of the Red Raiders' job.

    Stay tuned.

    sagegrouse
    Several more articles from today's Washington Post: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...nid=top_sports

    Even Feinstein weighs in saying, effectively, "It feels wrong, but it was the RIGHT decision" (because of the money). You gotta feel bad for Fridge, but obviously money talks and empty seats don't equal money (nor decent bowl invites...).

    It kinda makes you wonder, once Cut completes the turnaround at Wally Wade, what kind of a bowl will an 8-4 Duke squad get invited to... Well, ah, for now, let's just worry about getting ANY invitation! It is coming, soon my friends.

    Does anyone know if all of the coaching turmoil, including at South Beach, could have any positive impacts, potentially, for our recruiting? Weren't we involved with a stud lineman from South Florida?

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    Pitt's new coach lastedtwo weeks.

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    UConn's Randy Edsall to Maryland?

    Sources: Randy Edsall to Maryland

    Edsall says it is not a done deal yet but these reports are usually correct.
    Last edited by DMV2434; 01-02-2011 at 03:42 PM.

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    Edsall to Maryland

    Another blow to Big East football, which can least afford it. Really says something that he'd think it's a step up to go from the top of the Big East, where he's just coming off a Fiesta Bowl appearance, to a pretty good-but-far-from-great ACC program. I'm sure it's a big pay raise too, but still.

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    Talking Litigious Leach (Not Litigious Leech)

    Quote Originally Posted by DMV2434 View Post
    Sources: Randy Edsall to Maryland

    Edsall says it is not a done deal yet but these reports are usually correct.
    I think Leach's litigious nature did him in at Maryland. When Texas Tech suspended him over the incident with young James, he sued the university. It promptly fired him. Now he has lawsuits pending against both Texas Tech and ESPN for its stories, which his agent said he would not drop to get a head coaching job. Easy to understand why the University counsel and the Board of Governors would get cold feet.

    FWIW, Leach has a law degree (Pepperdine?).

    Anyway, my conjecture that the Maryland saga with Friedgen and Franklin was simply a ruse to hire Mike Leach proved to be wrong, although that may have been the intent of the AD.

    sagegrouse

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    Edsall Confirmed at MD, but not without controversy, soap opera...

    Quote Originally Posted by sagegrouse View Post
    I think Leach's litigious nature did him in at Maryland. When Texas Tech suspended him over the incident with young James, he sued the university. It promptly fired him. Now he has lawsuits pending against both Texas Tech and ESPN for its stories, which his agent said he would not drop to get a head coaching job. Easy to understand why the University counsel and the Board of Governors would get cold feet.

    FWIW, Leach has a law degree (Pepperdine?).

    Anyway, my conjecture that the Maryland saga with Friedgen and Franklin was simply a ruse to hire Mike Leach proved to be wrong, although that may have been the intent of the AD.

    sagegrouse
    Apparently the Edsall hiring at MD has raised the ire of some major contributors. One of the stories claims that Leach was the original target, until the last 48 hours, and that it was almost a done deal, but that the MD Athletic Director got last-minute cold feet over Leach's controversial background. Obviously that would have been the bolder step, and Edsall is more perceived as a step sideways relative to Fridge. Possibly a big missed opportunity for MD, but time will tell.

    I do wonder if Leach is effectively being blackballed by major college AD's, maybe in a subtle way, for his rough exit from TT. Someone will hire him though, and make schools like MD look bad for not "having the courage" to hire him (see Farrell article below).

    Some more articles from the Washington Post as Edsall is confirmed/announced today:

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...010203467.html

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...010202231.html

    http://voices.washingtonpost.com/ter...sall_will.html


    According to Mike Farrell of Rivals:
    ...at Maryland, in a state much more loaded with top-tier football talent, Edsall will be expected to compete for upper echelon recruits. Can Edsall and the staff he builds keep up? Time will tell, Farrell said.

    "I do know one thing: If I’m a Maryland fan, I’m happy with the hire because I know he’s going to win football games because he’s a tremendous football coach," Farrell said in a telephone interview late Sunday night. "If I’m a recruiting fan, I don’t think it’s going to be as exciting as it was under (Friedgen) with (James) Franklin and (Dave) Sollazzo and those guys."

    Here are some more of Farrell's thoughts, from a recruiting perspective, on Maryland's decision to hire Edsall:

    On Edsall reputation as a recruiter: "He finds guys that few other people recruit, and he turns them into really good football players. That’s what he had to do at UConn...

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    Quote Originally Posted by -bdbd View Post
    On Edsall reputation as a recruiter: "He finds guys that few other people recruit, and he turns them into really good football players. That’s what he had to do at UConn...[/I]
    Isn't that what Mark Few does at Gonzaga?

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    RichRod is out at Michigan

    No surprise really, but Fox in Detroit is reporting that he is gone.

    http://www.myfoxdetroit.com/dpp/spor...ootball-coach#

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    Quote Originally Posted by tommy View Post
    No surprise really, but Fox in Detroit is reporting that he is gone.

    http://www.myfoxdetroit.com/dpp/spor...ootball-coach#
    The really funny part is the report that alum Jim Harbaugh is NOT interested in the job!


    B...B...B...B...B...B...But this is MICHIGAN! We once went to bowl games for 30 straight years! What do you mean you aren't interested?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BD80 View Post
    The really funny part is the report that alum Jim Harbaugh is NOT interested in the job!


    B...B...B...B...B...B...But this is MICHIGAN! We once went to bowl games for 30 straight years! What do you mean you aren't interested?
    There was another alum who showed no interest the last time this job opened up... Les Miles.

    "Hail to the Victors" isn't playing so well these days.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BD80 View Post
    The really funny part is the report that alum Jim Harbaugh is NOT interested in the job!


    B...B...B...B...B...B...But this is MICHIGAN! We once went to bowl games for 30 straight years! What do you mean you aren't interested?
    While Jim Harbaugh is a Michigan alum, he is a Palo Alto native. He already is home. He is almost on top of the college football world right now, with a top 3 team, a dominating BCS game win, lots of momentum, an adoring fan base, an extremely supportive administration, fantastic facilities, and direct access to the California recruiting riches. Oh, and he gets to live in Palo Alto. It'll be 60 degrees and clear there tomorrow. It'll be 28 and snowing in Ann Arbor.

    Maybe not so hard to understand staying at Stanford, assuming he doesn't go pro.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tommy View Post
    While Jim Harbaugh is a Michigan alum, he is a Palo Alto native. He already is home. He is almost on top of the college football world right now, with a top 3 team, a dominating BCS game win, lots of momentum, an adoring fan base, an extremely supportive administration, fantastic facilities, and direct access to the California recruiting riches. Oh, and he gets to live in Palo Alto. It'll be 60 degrees and clear there tomorrow. It'll be 28 and snowing in Ann Arbor.

    Maybe not so hard to understand staying at Stanford, assuming he doesn't go pro.
    He's not a Palo Alto native. I believe he just finished high school there. Almost his entire life before that was spent in Ann Arbor. So, it's not just him being a Michigan Man, he's a product of the state.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tommy View Post
    While Jim Harbaugh is a Michigan alum, he is a Palo Alto native. ...
    Quote Originally Posted by blazindw View Post
    He's not a Palo Alto native. I believe he just finished high school there. Almost his entire life before that was spent in Ann Arbor. So, it's not just him being a Michigan Man, he's a product of the state.
    Jim's (and John's) dad Jack was an assistant coach at Michigan under Bo for SIX years before taking the defensive coordinator position at Stanford for the 2 years that Jim was in senior high. While Jim was at UM, his dad came back to Michigan as head coach of Western Michigan. Jack and Jim are consider Bo disciples.

    It is a major slap in the collective faces of UM alum for Jim to so casually dismiss the UM coaching job. This is a bit like the Alabama situation years ago as the alumni struggle to retain some connection to the legendary coach. Jim may be their last chance for Bo's tree to bear fruit in Ann Arbor.

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    The Michigan AD pretty much dismissed the notion of Harbaugh at the news conference, saying he thinks Harbaugh is looking at the NFL.

    Everyone is saying that Michigan will look to get Les Miles away from LSU. We'll see.

    -Jason "amazing how fast RichRod fell" Evans
    Why are you wasting time here when you could be wasting it by listening to the latest episode of the DBR Podcast?

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    Quote Originally Posted by JasonEvans View Post
    The Michigan AD pretty much dismissed the notion of Harbaugh at the news conference, saying he thinks Harbaugh is looking at the NFL.

    Everyone is saying that Michigan will look to get Les Miles away from LSU. We'll see.

    -Jason "amazing how fast RichRod fell" Evans
    I wouldn't count on Les Miles. Miles was interested last time, but was cockblocked by Lloyd Carr. Carr doesn't like him dating back to their days as assistants for Bo. Carr has a lot of influence here, and would likely utilize the same maneurver this time, unless the embarrassment of the RichRod era is so great and the need to get someone in there who is a proven winner, with Michigan ties, so great that Carr is willing to hold his nose and let bygones be.

    I don't find it to be amazing how fast RichRod fell. The guy was an embarrassment from Day One. The way he left WVU with the messy contractual situation. The lack of respect for the traditions of Michigan. The totally classless way he dealt with his defensive assistants. Getting this proud program put on probation for the first time in its history. And of course the abominable performance on the field. This guy is an ethically-challenged, no-class jerk, and was never a good fit for Michigan.

    The reality today is guys don't get as much time as they used to. Good coaches have proven that they can turn programs around in a couple of years. With all the resources at his disposal, for the Michigan program to be where it is after 3 full years is an embarrassment, and he completely deserved to be canned.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JasonEvans View Post
    The Michigan AD pretty much dismissed the notion of Harbaugh at the news conference, saying he thinks Harbaugh is looking at the NFL.

    Everyone is saying that Michigan will look to get Les Miles away from LSU. We'll see.

    -Jason "amazing how fast RichRod fell" Evans
    And RR is burning bridges as he goes. Word is that the "announcement" was delayed until today because RR was raising a fuss about his buy-out. His leaving WVU was so nasty that it was actually the start of his downfall at UM, the alum did not appreciate their new coach publicly mud wrestling for $. Throw in a whiff of NCAA investigation, complaints from players, a total lack of defense or physicality, unabated losses to OSU and MSU, one minor bowl in three years and a blow out in that one bowl ... RR just wasn't going to make it there.

    One thing that outsiders may not appreciate is that RR REALLY steamed a lot of alum by allowing a DEFENSIVE player wear #1! That was Anthony Carter's number, who is still revered at the school. It would have taken 10 straight victories over OSU and a couple of NCs to win back some alum from that unwitting fiasco.

    What AD takes a chance on RR now? He would probably do well out west where he can outscore opponents and not have to worry as much about defending ball control offenses.

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