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  1. #1
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    Austin Rivers going with 0

    Sorry if already posted but here are a couple of interesting tweets from Austin:

    "I wanted to wear the family number 25, but it's retired at duke! So I went with 0, 1 is still a possibility but that all depends on Kyrie!"

    and

    "1 is a slim possibility tho"

    Let the speculation begin before the season does.

  2. #2
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    Here's a link for anyone wanting to see the source material.

    He also says:
    I'm wearing #0 cause once i get to college everything that i have done doesn't matter, It's a fresh start back to ground ZERO! Must destroy!

  3. #3
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    Quote Originally Posted by juise View Post
    Here's a link for anyone wanting to see the source material.

    He also says:
    The new Agent ZERO. That would be incredible if they really want to play together this year. Maybe Singler and Smith will rub off on Kyrie. Both of them could have gone to the NBA last year but decided to stay one extra year and get better.
    The Terrapin Assassin

  4. #4
    In a previous article or twitter post Kyrie had said he would stay if Rivers came to Duke. Hopefully this stays true

  5. #5
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bluedevil114 View Post
    The new Agent ZERO. That would be incredible if they really want to play together this year. Maybe Singler and Smith will rub off on Kyrie. Both of them could have gone to the NBA last year but decided to stay one extra year and get better.
    ah...please no reference to Agent ZERO...

    We have to come up with a new nickname if he goes with 0.

  6. #6
    I'm guessing K has approved of this? In previous interviews, K has said that he likely would never allow anyone to wear #0 but I'm sure Austin has already informed him of his plans.

  7. #7
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bluedevil114 View Post
    That would be incredible if they really want to play together this year. Maybe Singler and Smith will rub off on Kyrie. Both of them could have gone to the NBA last year but decided to stay one extra year and get better.
    I'm hoping for an NBA lockout and no draft next spring.
    Ozzie, your paradigm of optimism!

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  8. #8
    Quote Originally Posted by OZZIE4DUKE View Post
    I'm hoping for an NBA lockout and no draft next spring.
    I hope that doesn't happen for Kyle and Nolan. Those guys deserve to start their careers after four years with us. I just hope Kyrie wants to stay and play with Austin. He won't be the next Jay Bilas like he wants with one year of school.

  9. #9
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    KI
    Rivers
    Curry
    Plum
    Plum

    That would be ridiculous talent...

  10. #10
    Quote Originally Posted by Cockabeau View Post
    KI
    Rivers
    Curry
    Plum
    Plum

    That would be ridiculous talent...
    Yeah, so much more talent than: KI, Curry, Plum, Plum, Nolan, Kyle...

  11. #11
    Quote Originally Posted by Kedsy View Post
    Yeah, so much more talent than: KI, Curry, Plum, Plum, Nolan, Kyle...
    You are right. Rivers < Singler, Nolan. Especially since both of them are seniors and potential 1st team All-Americans.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gthoma2a View Post
    I hope that doesn't happen for Kyle and Nolan. Those guys deserve to start their careers after four years with us. I just hope Kyrie wants to stay and play with Austin. He won't be the next Jay Bilas like he wants with one year of school.
    Kyrie wants to be the next Jay Bilas?

  13. #13
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    Quote Originally Posted by El_Diablo View Post
    Kyrie wants to be the next Jay Bilas?
    Your DBR name has given me inspiration... If Austin goes with the number 0, we shall call him...

    DIABLO ZERO

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    his shot attempts should be called "none chucks".

    his box score stats should be "the nil set".

    nilicious

    zeroic.

    the filthy zilch.

    if diablo zero, it would probably have to be diablo cero, to keep the language consistent but i like it.

  15. #15
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    Quote Originally Posted by ElSid View Post
    his shot attempts should be called "none chucks".

    his box score stats should be "the nil set".

    nilicious

    zeroic.

    the filthy zilch.

    if diablo zero, it would probably have to be diablo cero, to keep the language consistent but i like it.
    Oh, my man, that is the definition of beautiful.

  16. #16
    Quote Originally Posted by ElSid View Post
    his shot attempts should be called "none chucks".

    his box score stats should be "the nil set".

    nilicious

    zeroic.

    the filthy zilch.

    if diablo zero, it would probably have to be diablo cero, to keep the language consistent but i like it.
    Love it

  17. #17
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    Art Heyman

    If I were Art Heyman and a young man of River's stature asked politely for the honor of using my retired jersey number, I would certainly give it serious consideration.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Teton Jack View Post
    If I were Art Heyman and a young man of River's stature asked politely for the honor of using my retired jersey number, I would certainly give it serious consideration.
    Dissent. A retired jersey is retired for a reason. it is to honor the guy who wore it and to say that no one deserves to wear it again. We don't open up a debate every time a kid wants a number as to whether or not that kid is good enough or honorable enough to unretire the number.

    Suppose a lesser recruit, a top 50 kid as opposed to a top 5 one, wanted a certain number. Would we say, "sorry, we only give out retired numbers to better prospects than you"?

    What if Heyman felt strongly about his number belonging to him but Dawkins didn't really care -- are we supposed to say, "Sorry, but 25 is not available. We can give you 24, which is also retired but Johnny Dawkins will let you use it."

    What happens when the owner of the retired number dies? Do we ask his heirs about unretiring the number or just consider the answer to permanently be, "no." Heck, maybe once they die we consider the answer to be, "yes!!"

    This is a bad precedent and one I am certain Duke will not undertake. Austin wanted to wear a number that is retired. That is it. End of story. I am sure Austin understands that. His father coaches the freaking Celtics, who are the kings of retired numbers.

    --Jason "I just don't think numbers are as big a deal as some make them out to be" Evans
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  19. #19
    Quote Originally Posted by JasonEvans View Post
    Dissent. A retired jersey is retired for a reason. it is to honor the guy who wore it and to say that no one deserves to wear it again. We don't open up a debate every time a kid wants a number as to whether or not that kid is good enough or honorable enough to unretire the number.

    Suppose a lesser recruit, a top 50 kid as opposed to a top 5 one, wanted a certain number. Would we say, "sorry, we only give out retired numbers to better prospects than you"?

    What if Heyman felt strongly about his number belonging to him but Dawkins didn't really care -- are we supposed to say, "Sorry, but 25 is not available. We can give you 24, which is also retired but Johnny Dawkins will let you use it."

    What happens when the owner of the retired number dies? Do we ask his heirs about unretiring the number or just consider the answer to permanently be, "no." Heck, maybe once they die we consider the answer to be, "yes!!"

    This is a bad precedent and one I am certain Duke will not undertake. Austin wanted to wear a number that is retired. That is it. End of story. I am sure Austin understands that. His father coaches the freaking Celtics, who are the kings of retired numbers.

    --Jason "I just don't think numbers are as big a deal as some make them out to be" Evans
    I slightly disagree with you in a sense. I don't think "numbers" should be retired at all. Having your jersey retired is one thing, but that shouldn't limit the numbers available for very long. Maybe when you retire a jersey, no one can wear that number for 10 or so years... but it's a logistical nightmare (which is why football doesn't retire numbers).

    Using the current numbering system, there are 34-36 numbers available for a team depending on if you count #0 and #1. Duke has retired 13 numbers, 12 of which in the last 3 decades. That averages to 4 per decade (respectively it was 3/5/4 for 1980/90/2000). Using the current rule of numbers 0-5, Duke will run out of numbers fairly soon (even if we assume the trend of 4 per decade won't last). Combine that with the fact that certain numbers are pretty undesirable (13, 40-55), and it's going to become a problem.

    In all honesty, I don't think numbers merit being permanently retired. While Grant Hill and Shane Battier were magnificent players for Duke (for example), I don't think that either player left a legacy worth ensuring that no player EVER wears 33 or 31. What happens if Duke wins another championship this year, do we retire Singler or Smith? Because if we do, that leaves Duke with 2 fewer numbers that NOONE could ever wear.

  20. #20
    IMO, numbers don't matter unless you want to play for enough time to get them retired. Once someone has an amazing career in a jersey, then it means something because it becomes synonomous with a legacy. If players don't want to stay, then there is no reason to worry other than individuality. I personally sort of wish there were a way for Lance, Zoubs, or at least Scheyer to get their numbers retired. The reason I would like for them to get it is that they were all stars beyond the stat sheet. Their heart and spirits were beyond all expectations and put a banner up in the rafters that very few expected. That may not match the stats, but it was something that was just as valuable as all of the accolades that those jerseys represented to me. I would dare to say that is even more impressive considering this group of what were considered ordinary men played like supermen to elevate themselves and the school on the highest stage.

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