All-ACC Team Predictions

[airowe]

1st Team:
Nolan Smith
Malcolm Delaney
Harrison Barnes
Kyle Singler
Tracy Smith

2nd Team:
Kyrie Irving
Durand Scott
Chris Singleton
John Henson
Jordan Williams

What do you think?

[superdave]

1st Team:
Nolan Smith
Malcolm Delaney
Harrison Barnes
Kyle Singler
Tracy Smith

2nd Team:
Kyrie Irving
Durand Scott
Chris Singleton
John Henson
Jordan Williams

What do you think?

I'd drop Barnes to the 2nd team because I dont bet on freshmen making the 1st team. Who has recently? Hansborough? There is enough depth, talent and ego in Chapel Hill for Barnes to be good but not 1st team.

[Duvall]

I'd drop Barnes to the 2nd team because I dont bet on freshmen making the 1st team. Who has recently? Hansborough? There is enough depth, talent and ego in Chapel Hill for Barnes to be good but not 1st team.

There really isn't that much talent in Chapel Hill. There's enough, but Barnes will still have to log heavy minutes and take a lot of shots.

Besides, who else is going to fill the designated UNC slot on the All-ACC team? Got to have Barnes ahead of Zeller and Henson.

[jimsumner]

There really isn't that much talent in Chapel Hill. There's enough, but Barnes will still have to log heavy minutes and take a lot of shots.

Besides, who else is going to fill the designated UNC slot on the All-ACC team? Got to have Barnes ahead of Zeller and Henson.

It should be noted that UNC failed to place anyone on the All-ACC first team, second team or third team last season.

[Newton_14]

It should be noted that UNC failed to place anyone on the All-ACC first team, second team or third team last season.

Though Roy lobbied hard, real hard, for Ed Davis to make it based on "his first half stats" as surely he would have matched those numbers had he played the 2nd half of the ACC schedule. But alas, it was to no avail thankfully!

[Duvall]

It should be noted that UNC failed to place anyone on the All-ACC first team, second team or third team last season.

First time that happened in the history of the league, though, and it took a ninth-place finish.

If UNC finishes in the top four in the league (and they probably will) and Harrison Barnes is their best player (which he probably will be), then Barnes will be first-team All-ACC, regardless of what any other player in the league does this year.

[Namtilal]

I'd drop Barnes to the 2nd team because I dont bet on freshmen making the 1st team. Who has recently? Hansborough? There is enough depth, talent and ego in Chapel Hill for Barnes to be good but not 1st team.

If Joe Forte could win ACC POY, then the media might vote Barnes to the papacy.

[Duke: A Dynasty]

1st Team:
Nolan Smith
Malcolm Delaney
Harrison Barnes
Kyle Singler
Tracy Smith

2nd Team:
Kyrie Irving
Durand Scott
Chris Singleton
John Henson
Jordan Williams

[4decadedukie]

I am reluctant to suggest this, especially since no one else has done so. However, I would not discount Seth Curry from potential Second Team achievement. It is obviously FAR too early to be sure of any of these candidates, however I have a visceral feeling he is going to make very substantial contributions this season.

[COYS]

I am reluctant to suggest this, especially since no one else has done so. However, I would not discount Seth Curry from potential Second Team achievement. It is obviously FAR too early to be sure of any of these candidates, however I have a visceral feeling he is going to make very substantial contributions this season.

I agree. My only caution would be that Scheyer failed to make any of the teams in 2008 when he came off the bench as a sophomore even though I think he was arguably our best player. I think Seth would have to find a way to average at least 13 ppg and have a stunning 3p% to sneak on to one of the teams. That would be awesome, of course, but I think that if he doesn't make one of the teams it has more to do with the competition he faces from his own teammates rather than his ability. From all indications, he definitely appears to be an all-ACC caliber.

[Jderf]

I agree. My only caution would be that Scheyer failed to make any of the teams in 2008 when he came off the bench as a sophomore even though I think he was arguably our best player. I think Seth would have to find a way to average at least 13 ppg and have a stunning 3p% to sneak on to one of the teams. That would be awesome, of course, but I think that if he doesn't make one of the teams it has more to do with the competition he faces from his own teammates rather than his ability. From all indications, he definitely appears to be an all-ACC caliber.

Exactly. Even though, by seasons end, we may well have four or five players (or even six, depending on how crazily optimistic you are) who should be considered All-ACC, there is a significant chance that many will be snubbed solely because they are on the same team as some of the other candidates. I suppose that's just how the selection process goes.

[COYS]

Exactly. Even though, by seasons end, we may well have four or five players (or even six, depending on how crazily optimistic you are) who should be considered All-ACC, there is a significant chance that many will be snubbed solely because they are on the same team as some of the other candidates. I suppose that's just how the selection process goes.

The only way I think some of our guys could avoid that type of snub would be for Duke to run the table in the ACC and have our closest competitors slump to 10 wins, or so, so that Duke's dominance is so ridiculous that our guys just can't be denied. Hey, it's possible, but I wouldn't bet on it.

[sagegrouse]

Exactly. Even though, by seasons end, we may well have four or five players (or even six, depending on how crazily optimistic you are) who should be considered All-ACC, there is a significant chance that many will be snubbed solely because they are on the same team as some of the other candidates. I suppose that's just how the selection process goes.

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Duke has nothing to complain about WRT All-ACC selections, especially since Duke had three players in the top seven last year. But my real point is that neither Carolina, State, nor Wake have anything to worry about. There seems to be a persistent state of NC bias in the selections brought about by so many of the voters being from there, and it has existed forever, back to the day when the Big Four were the only decent basketball schools in the ACC. I don't think it's corrupt; I just think the Big Four players are well known to the writers and media guys, both on the court and personally. Moreover, I think it is easy for players in Boston, Tallahassee, Miami, or Blacksburg to get overlooked.

sagegrouse

[Jderf]

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Duke has nothing to complain about WRT All-ACC selections, especially since Duke had three players in the top seven last year. But my real point is that neither Carolina, State, nor Wake have anything to worry about. There seems to be a persistent state of NC bias in the selections brought about by so many of the voters being from there, and it has existed forever, back to the day when the Big Four were the only decent basketball schools in the ACC. I don't think it's corrupt; I just think the Big Four players are well known to the writers and media guys, both on the court and personally. Moreover, I think it is easy for players in Boston, Tallahassee, Miami, or Blacksburg to get overlooked.

sagegrouse

Agreed. I would never say that the selection committee might be biased against us. If anything, Duke has gotten treated pretty well by them in recent years, as you say. I'm just saying that, specifically because we are so stacked, it might be unusually difficult to make All-ACC this year if your name is not Nolan, Kyle, or Kyrie.

[davekay1971]

First Team:
Kyrie Irving
Nolan Smith
Stephen Curry
Kyle Singler
Mason Plumlee

Second Team:
Andre Dawkins
Tyler Thornton
Ryan Kelly
Josh Hairston
Miles Plumlee

Um, sorry, was that a slightly biased selection ballot? My bad...

[roywhite]

First Team:
Kyrie Irving
Nolan Smith
Stephen Curry
Kyle Singler
Mason Plumlee

Second Team:
Andre Dawkins
Tyler Thornton
Ryan Kelly
Josh Hairston
Miles Plumlee

Um, sorry, was that a slightly biased selection ballot? My bad...

I like the picks, though I think you've got the wrong Curry.

I wonder how that second team would do in ACC competition; it's a young group but talented. Win some games and approach .500?

[timmy c]

I wonder how that second team would do in ACC competition; it's a young group but talented. Win some games and approach .500?

The Duke reserves could definitely finish .500 in league play this year. They would benefit from a weaker than normal ACC - UVA will be young (with 6 freshman scholarship players) with less talent, GT will have trouble finding its identity after so many front court roster losses that will require them to rely on turnover prone Iman Shumbert, Miami lost its two leading scorers from a team that finished last in conference, BC is rebuilding after firing Al Skinner and, finally, Wake Forest lost 4 of their top 6 scorers. I count 8 wins right there!

[ACCBBallFan]

I made a list of the returning ACC guys and there is some room for a few frosh to exceed some of these guys. Metrics are just a single season summation of a bunch of positive metrics minus some negative ones, and some will really surprise you.

Career totals in parenthesis

2592 - Kyle Singler (6592-1)

2283 - Nolan Smith (4290-5)
2273 - Seth Curry (2273-23)
2219 - Malcolm Delaney (5907-2)

2071 - Tracy Smith (3375-9)

1880 - Jeff Allen (5286-3)
1865 - Dorenzo Hudson (3319-10)

1776 - Joe Trapani (4396-4)
1743 - Chris Singleton (3277-11)
1728 - Larry Drew (2276-22)

1681 - Reggie Jackson (2810-16)
1656 - Iman Shumpert (3150-12)

1561 - Corey Raji (3957-7)
1547 - Durand Scott (1547)
1520 - Javi Gonzalez (3142-13)
1513 - Sean Mosley (2602-18)
1511 - Terrelle Bell (2477-20)
1504 - Scott Wood (1504)

1480 - Jordan Williams (1490)
1466 - Derwin Kitchen (2553-20)
1432 - Demontez Stitt (3993-6)
1420 - Sammy Zeglinski (2591-19) injured til Jan
1403 - Adrian Bowie (2884-14)
1364 - Mike Scott (3663-8)
1332 - Malcolm Grant (1332)
1327 - Tanner Smith (1990)
...
1163 - Biko Paris (2851-15)
...
1096 - Jerai Grant (2304-21)
1046 - Justin Knox (2265-25)
1034 - Mo Miller (2680-17)

Top frosh

RSCI College
1 UNC Harrison Barnes
4 Duke Kyrie Irving
10 UNC Reggie Bullock
13 NC St C.J. Leslie
19 UNC Kendall Marshall
23 NC St Ryan Harrow
27 Duke Josh Hairston

[Jeff Frosh]

1st Team:
Nolan Smith
Malcolm Delaney
Harrison Barnes
Kyle Singler
Tracy Smith

2nd Team:
Kyrie Irving
Durand Scott
Chris Singleton
John Henson
Jordan Williams

What do you think?

Looks good. I might put Dorenzo Hudson on 2nd team in place of Henson.

[jimrowe0]

Looks good. I might put Dorenzo Hudson on 2nd team in place of Henson.

And switch Barnes with Jordan Williams