Can we please not use this thread to get into a discussion of Mason's and Austin's draft prospects (and reasons to stay or leave)?
I was flipping channels last night and stopped on ESPNU's Recruting Nation and low and behold they were talking to Tony Parker on the phone. Im sure it was taped so I dont know when it aired live but anyway during the interview the guy obviously asked about his recruitment. Tony said that his parents were getting tired of it and that its coming to an end. He went on to say you guys are going to be shocked buy my decision. Now to me, that dont sound good for Duke because I dont exactly know if picking Duke would be a shock. I think maybe picking the home school would be a shock. What do you guys think?
Adding Tony would be a great pick up but in my opinion I dont think he is coming to Duke!
That interview or call (I didn't see it) seemingly has little bearing on my opinion about TP and Duke. Hope he comes to Duke, but at this point I would consider it truly shocking if he DID come to Duke..
Time will tell..
If I were Mason, I'd be less concerned with leapfrogging my way to the top 10 as avoiding a potential slide to the second round. It's happened to quite a few talented, productive Duke big men over the years-- and losing the guaranteed contract should give him serious pause.
After Harry Barnes I've stopped trying to decipher the cryptic nature of today's youth. I feel for these kids with the pressure of making the right choice for them but I honestly don't know if anyone but the kid can accurately know what is going on with their decision making process. I'd love to add a kid like Parker, need another big, but I had assumed Parker had cooled on Duke per a few other more in the know source on here. I figured the staff was making a full court press for Amile Jefferson who should be making a decision here soon.
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According to his father, Tony will announce at the McDonald's game on March 28. Kansas sure sounds like they're in a good position.
This comment from Tony's Dad seems to confirm a lot of the sentiment on these boards. Whether this is predictive of what the final decision is or not remains to be seen.
“Tony would be like the Morris twins and like [Thomas] Robinson,” Virgil said. “They’ve done a good job with their bigs the last few years.”
Ugh, I hate the comparing game that all the schools play. Tony Parker is not Thomas Robinson. Do you think OSU tells their recruits they can be JUST LIKE Greg Oden? I'm guessing no. I get it though, you can't argue with results and frankly, we don't have the marketable big men comparables.
Contrast this with what I distinctly remember Shabazz saying after Coach K's in-home visit: something to the effect that "there is no question in my mind that if I go to Duke, they will help me become as good a player as I want to be." With Shabazz, the impetus to getting better lies with himself, and the program would do everything possible to support him. With Tony, I never hear about his internal drive to get better. The quotes imply that the program is responsible for turning him into something. The personal accountability doesn't seem to be there.
I don't intend to be critical of Tony, but it's just a difference in the rhetoric that I've noticed. I know a lot of potential recruits buy into the "Duke doesn't develop their bigs as well as ______" line of thinking, but I don't notice the same lack of personal accountability in the rhetoric.
Incidentially we heard personal accountability from Austin during his recruitment too. He would talk about how he wanted to work on his defense, and Duke would be a great place to help him with that. Not that Duke would turn him into something.
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Well said. A lot of recruits buy into this rhetoric now and it's a little discouarging because they're picking based on that rather than the whole package. I wonder if any coaches look at their big time players and think to themselves, "wow, this guy is really going to help me recruit the next few years!" Maybe Calipari , but I'd hope that this is not a common line of thinking in college coaching.
If Parker can be developed into a good low post scorer then K would certainly utilize that. He has done it with every other good big man he has had in the program at Duke. Parker would be no different. Mason has slumped a little in the last 4 games or so, but throughout the season the ball has gone into the post to Mason early and often. I doubt seriously we have seen the last of that.
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Tony's dad thinking he could be turned into Thomas Robinson is an absolute joke. I think it's time Duke just tells him to forget it. I guess we'll know soon enough if Amile commits next week.
To be sure, it could be that Tony and/or his dad have pipe dreams that he could be, as gam7 talked about earlier, "turned into" one of those players, or "turned into" a great NBA prospect, rather than recognizing that all any coaching staff can do is give Tony the opportunity to become the best Tony Parker he can be and help him with that through coaching, training and experience. And I agree with gam7 that personal accountability is an important issue in recruitment--one that may result in Duke missing on some talented players (who probably wouldn't be a good fit with Duke for that very reason).
But I don't think this is enough evidence to draw that conclusion. And I think the Duke staff likely tries to screen out people with unrealistic expectations about what the program can do for them without their expending significant effort on their own. So I don't think it's fair for us to make negative assumptions about Tony Parker, or suggest that Duke should "tell him to forget it," based on these brief remarks by his dad. We should should give them, and the Duke coaches who recruited Tony, the benefit of the doubt here--even if he goes to Kansas.
Also, why is everyone ripping on Parker? There's still a chance (albeit a small one) that he ends up at Duke. And even if he doesn't, why are we turning on him and trying to find ways to make him out to be a bad guy?