Sorry, I was responding to the overall flavor of the thread and should not have quoted you. I didn't play close attention to everything that you said, just scanned it and thought it would work for my reply. Again, sorry.
Overall flavor of thread - sure, it's gonna be Roy/UNC-putdown, but there's some evidence that something went wrong with Wears, and it's moderately embarrassing for Roy, if for no other reason than the "surprise factor."
I'm not exactly asking you to convince me that I've inferred incorrectly re the remarks by Howland and the mom, i.e., that I've erred in claiming they were implying anything about Roy. But until someone does so, it sure looks like a dig, gentle or maybe a little harder. [Actually airowe in post #772 did provide a plausible, non-UNC-related explanation for Howland's comment. That airowe, always sticking up for Roy.....]
You need not reply, as I admit I've had my fun, yet again, at Roy's expense. IMO, he has been a fine coach at KU and UNC, and, though I'd strongly prefer it to be otherwise, will probably recover his wits either in '10-'11 or in '11-'12 at latest. Duke and UNC are both great universities, with great academic and bball traditions. All Devil and Heel fans have a right to be fanatically proud.
Last edited by gumbomoop; 05-26-2010 at 04:21 PM. Reason: clarity
Howland taking swipes at Ol' Roy's coaching is pretty amusing don't you think?
“Those two kids, they’re champions,” Krzyzewski said of his senior leaders. “They’re trying to teach the other kids how to become that, and it’s a long road to become that.”
Last edited by gumbomoop; 05-26-2010 at 04:48 PM. Reason: stoopid spacing
Duke's experience with, uh, hyperactive fathers of players and recruits seem to center on one and only one thing -- playing time. Get the kid on the court so he can show what he can do. I think the Wears would have each played 15-20 minutes per game in 2011. Probably more, given the brittleness of Zeller and the slightness of Henson. BY 2013 both should be starting unless one of them can't beat out a freshman or sophomore. Zeller will leave after two years, and I doubt that Henson is a four-year player. Maybe that wasn't enough for the Wear family.
The only other factor I can think is the realization that both brothers might benefit from an extra year in college. But they have played only one year; who's to say that four years of college ball isn't enough, but five years would be.
This whole situation is a puzzlement to me. But then, so was Taylor King, who was also from Mater Dei, and who has had the same experience at 'Nova as he had at Duke -- no PT unless he worked on his defense.
Last edited by sagegrouse; 05-26-2010 at 05:02 PM. Reason: Ah, clarity! So far away from the grouse nest
If you had a chance to watch the Wears last year, UNC won't be missing much. I'm sure they would much rather have one and done Knox plus another possible pickup. All of the gnashing of teeth about thinness in the post?...well the Wears played mostly from the perimeter and were ineffective underneath. They did UNC a favor.
First of all, if you check last year's stats, Knox was less effective as a junior than Travis Wear was as a freshman. And losing two big men ensures that UNC will be young and thin in the post for the next couple of years at least. UNC not only has to locate replacements for Zeller and likely early departers Henson and McAdoo, but also has to recruit backups for those replacements, and right soon.
I have heard that Mrs Wear lived in Chapel Hill for much of the season with the father staying in Cali. Not sure how accurate that is, but I have heard that. It is also rumored that the hurt twin will have to sit out a season to heal his leg. If he has to sit out a season, I suppose UCLA is as good a place as any. His brother is just tagging along? Would his brother rather sit out a season too so that they remain in the same class and have the same amount of elligibilty left? Looks like PT wasn't going to be a problem; however, being recruited over may have been. If their father wanted his sons to play at UCLA all along and the injury happened to open an opportunity? Were the twins homesick?
There are a bunch of reasons why this may have happened, but these seem to be the most likely. Regardless, UNC was put in a bad position and pappa Wear is the one that handled this situation. He is the one that waited until the last minute. Perhaps it was better for his kids not to announce while they still had a few weeks left of school, but they decided to do what favored them. I think they may have been good players to have on the team in the future, but in the short term and even in the long term- I think this worked out just fine.
man, they are pounding the wear family over on IC.........it's brutal... Just shows that if you don't want anything bad said about you over at UNC, don't leave the room....
Dad had a good reason to handle it himself. Delvon Roe and family agree I'm sure.Regardless, UNC was put in a bad position and pappa Wear is the one that handled this situation. He is the one that waited until the last minute. Perhaps it was better for his kids not to announce while they still had a few weeks left of school, but they decided to do what favored them. I think they may have been good players to have on the team in the future, but in the short term and even in the long term- I think this worked out just fine.
you guys are too much