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  1. #41
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    Mar 2007
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    Quote Originally Posted by mr. synellinden View Post
    It consistently shocks me how people on this board, the biggest Duke basketball fans, don't acknowledge, remember, realize, appreciate, etc., how good Danny Ferry was. Forget about his pro career. He was ACC player of the year twice when almost nobody went pro early, split the player of the year voting with Sean Elliot his senior year, once scored 58 points in a game and played on 3 final four teams. He was a great inside - out scorer, created matchup problems for any team he faced because there was nobody else like him and was a terrific passer. When there is discussion about the all-time best player ever to play at Duke, you hear Grant Hill, Christian Laettner, Johnny Dawkins, Art Heyman, Dick Groat, Jason Williams ... but you very rarely see Ferry mentioned in that discussion, and he should be. In my opinion, Laettner is the best college player ever at Duke - based on his talent and accomplishments. However, outside of Laettner there is a strong argument that Ferry was the best COLLEGE player ever to play at Duke. I would include all of the others above in that argument.
    Amen. Ferry is the ultimate "unappreciated" Duke legend.

    dukemsu

  2. #42
    Danny was a bad bad man.

  3. #43
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    Washington, DC
    re Danny: I may be hampered in that I simply wasn't paying as much attention when Ferry was playing. And I've seen more highlights of Dawkins, Banks, and some others from back in the day. I wasn't the Duke fan at the time that I am now, but I do remember Giminski as a player.

    Maybe Danny's misfortune was to have been so quickly eclipsed by Laettner and the championships that Danny's teams could never quite win. His time in the spotlight was brief.

    What's fun about this is that, inevitably, some great players are going to be left off someone's top team. That's how many great ones have passed through the Duke program.

  4. #44
    Quote Originally Posted by mr. synellinden View Post
    In my opinion, Laettner is the best college player ever at Duke

    Some folks would say you could leave out the "at Duke" part of that sentence.

  5. #45
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    New York City

    Excellent Point ...

    I would be one of those people.

  6. #46
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    Duhon
    Redick
    Mullins
    Boozer
    Brand

    Subs:
    Maggette
    Hill
    Gminski

  7. #47
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    NC

    I can't remember the 86 team...

    as I'm only 28. I only vaguely remember the 87 team. So my memory relies on the 88-to-present teams.

    Starting five:
    PG - Hurley (best pure point guard I've seen at Duke)
    SG - Williams (I like the combo of Williams/Hurley)
    SF - G Hill (just so versatile)
    PF - Battier (ditto, and great shooting range to stretch defense)
    C - Brand (I like his post-up game. It's really a coin-flip for me between Laettner and Brand, and they'd both play heavy minutes)

    Bench:
    Laettner (perfect change of pace from Brand, and I'd run that high-low combo a lot, too)
    Ferry (I only saw the end of his career, but he was real good)
    Redick (the perfect gunner for this team)
    Boozer/Williams (I can't decide if I want Boozer's offense or Williams' defense)
    Duhon (insurance point guard - great defense and good team player)

    I'd go big at times with Brand or Ferry in place of a smaller player (either Hill/Battier or a guard), and small at times with Redick coming in for Hill or Battier. But there's pretty much no situation in which I feel this team would have matchup problems.

  8. #48
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    Winter Park FL
    I can only discuss the 1985 team and beyond, so I will limit my choices to that. I will also limit my starters to 4 year players. Why? Because it's my list.

    Point Guard: Bobby Hurley (All time assist Leader)
    Shooting Guard: Johnny Dawkins (So very smooth, made everything look effortless.
    Small Forward: Grant Hill (no brainer)
    Power Forward: Danny Ferry (This was a tough call)
    Center: Christian Laettner (again, no brainer)

    Bench:
    Shane Battier
    Jason Williams
    Elton Brand

    I went back and forth between Shane and Danny. I graduated in '89 with Danny and at that time he was THE god around campus and the NCAA. He was a point forward who could do anything on the court. Everyone was talking about him becoming the next Larry Bird (there always seems to be one, but he had a great skill set). Shane was the consumate team player, awesome defensively, developed into a great offensive player, great communicator and leader. I better go ahead and submit this before I change my mind again.

  9. #49
    My ALL Naismith team:

    Starters:
    Jason Williams (POY 2002)
    Johnny Dawkins (POY 1986)
    Danny Ferry (6'10" playing the 3 for me) (POY 1989)
    Christian Laettner (POY 1992)
    Elton Brand (POY 1999)

    Bench:
    Shane Battier (POY 2001)
    JJ Redick (POY 2006)
    Lindsey Harding (POY 2007)

    Coach: 3 time Naismith COY Mike K. has the edge over 2-time Naismith COY Gail G.

    Interesting: We're the only school that can field a team.
    Last edited by g_olaf; 05-23-2007 at 07:09 PM.

  10. #50
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    Raleigh, NC

    Who is your All-Time Duke starting five?

    Here's mine:

    1st team
    PG: Jason Williams
    SG: Johnny Dawkins
    SF: Grant Hill
    PF: Danny Ferry
    C: Christian Laettner

    2nd team
    PG: Bobby Hurley
    SG: JJ Redick
    SF: Shane Battier
    PF: Elton Brand
    C: Mike Gminski

  11. #51
    1. jason williams
    2. JJ reddick
    3. johny dawkins
    4. shane battier
    5. christian laettner

  12. #52
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    Tennessee
    1) Dick Groat
    2) Art Heyman
    3) Grant Hill
    4) Christian Laettner
    5)Johnny Dawkins

  13. #53
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    Feb 2007
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    Durham
    I'm only 23 so please excuse the modern-era bias

    Jason Williams (best CBB player I've ever seen - again, pardon the bias)
    Johnny Dawkins
    Grant Hill
    Christian Laettner
    Elton Brand

  14. #54
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    Mar 2007
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    Toledo
    PG: Jason Williams
    SG: JJ Redick
    F: Grant Hill
    F: Shane Battier
    F/C: Christian Laettner

    That team would NEVER be touched. Bring on all comers.

  15. #55
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    Washington DC
    PG: Hurley (2 natl champs, all-time asissts)
    SG: Dawkins (2,500 career points, player of year)
    SF: G. Hill (player of year, 2 natl champs..almost 3rd)
    PF: Elton Brand (player of year, unguardable)
    C: Christian Laettner (started 4 final fours)

    Bench: G-man, Battier, J. Williams

  16. #56
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    Meeting with Marie Laveau

    I concur

    Quote Originally Posted by Zeke View Post
    1) Dick Groat
    2) Art Heyman
    3) Grant Hill
    4) Christian Laettner
    5)Johnny Dawkins
    I concur with this list though it's a shame to leave out Jeff Mullins, Bob Verga and some others who put Duke on the national basketball map before some of those who are posting were even thought of!

  17. #57
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    Atlanta, GA (Buckhead)
    PG: Bobby Hurley
    SG: Johnny Dawkins
    F: Grant Hill
    F: Danny Ferry
    C: Christian Laettner

    Wow. Not an easy task to pick five. Too many awesome choices.

    -EarlJam

  18. #58
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    Texas/NC
    If I am actually making a team and not putting together the best 5...


    1) Dawkins
    2) Redick
    3) Hill
    4) Laettner
    5) I want to say Ferry, but I am going with a complete surprise pick- Carrawell. With the other 4, I want that little burst in to the lane with the guaranteed 5-7 footer. Plus I want him for his defense and leadership.

  19. #59
    Hurley
    G. Hill
    Laettner
    Jason Williams
    Battier

    Sorry Dawkins and Brand, you don't have rings

  20. #60
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    Steamboat Springs, CO

    Thumbs down Ahem! Tweet! TweeeeeeT! TWEEEET!

    This is a May topic -- not one for February -- especially during a great season.

    sagegrouse

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