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  1. #201
    Quote Originally Posted by COYS View Post
    Gbinije was number 5 for the east. He had a solid game and was oh so close to finishing two spectacular plays that would've put him in the highlight reel (he missed an almost-incredible put back jam off the back iron that, even though he missed it, displayed some impressive hops and lost the handle on a few acrobatic forays to the rim amid the trees). When he wasn't pressing and instead let the game come to him, he was at his best, including a nice breakaway jam and a smooth three off of an assist from Austin. You can only glean so much from an all star game, of course, but the reports on Mike seem to be accurate. His movements are generally smooth as silk and he seems to be good at a lot of things. He's got a pretty good handle, a smooth shooting stroke, good passing instincts, and solid athleticism. While his actual size will play a big role in determining what positions he can guard, I don't doubt his coach that he could cover opposing 1's, 2's, and 3's. He seems like a guy who, if he can adapt to Duke defense quickly, could earn some PT as a long wing defender who can hit the open jumper and sneak in for an offensive rebound from the wing. He could also play a huge role in the full-court press. He also seems pretty strong for a wing player, which should help his transition to college ball. I almost never pencil freshman into the starting lineup or anything, but it wouldn't surprise me if Mike ended up making the regular rotation next year . . . especially if his defensive versatility proves to be an asset.
    I've imported the above tag-quote by COYS from the Jordan Brand thread, as I think it belongs here, too. More important, COYS's analysis is very perceptive. Obviously I've highlighted what I see as some key points.

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    Gbinije honestly hasn't looked very good in any all-star games, but that's kind of a curse of being a player with a good understanding of spacing and flow. You only get the ball so many times in these games, and if you want to do anything, you pretty much have to attack whenever you get the ball, regardless of whether it's there... it seems like he's tried to make himself do that, and has looked a little lost when doing so.

    The plays that come instinctively to him seem to be the little things... perfect timing with a pass on a pick and pop, etc. I think he'll look better in a team oriented-game where those little plays actually matter... Scheyer and Kelly always looked lost in those games too.

  3. #203
    Quote Originally Posted by Greg_Newton View Post
    Gbinije honestly hasn't looked very good in any all-star games, but that's kind of a curse of being a player with a good understanding of spacing and flow. You only get the ball so many times in these games, and if you want to do anything, you pretty much have to attack whenever you get the ball, regardless of whether it's there... it seems like he's tried to make himself do that, and has looked a little lost when doing so.

    The plays that come instinctively to him seem to be the little things... perfect timing with a pass on a pick and pop, etc. I think he'll look better in a team oriented-game where those little plays actually matter... Scheyer and Kelly always looked lost in those games too.
    I don't agree that he did not look good. He hit a deep, quick three- made some nice drives to the hoop- showed a good instinct for passing and seems to have a very good handle. I thought he was fouled on several shots that we not called. He played better than Beal. I am not sure in what way he looked lost. No way he did not look like he belonged out there.
    dukelifer

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    any predictions on what her jersey number will be? i'm hoping for a 13 from him.
    Excelsior!

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    Quote Originally Posted by dukelifer View Post
    I don't agree that he did not look good. He hit a deep, quick three- made some nice drives to the hoop- showed a good instinct for passing and seems to have a very good handle. I thought he was fouled on several shots that we not called. He played better than Beal. I am not sure in what way he looked lost. No way he did not look like he belonged out there.
    I agree dukelifer - Gbinije looked very solid. His three was impressive, as was his athleticism. Silent G will fit in nicely. He reminds me of Shannon Brown from Mich St... not quite as athletic but perhaps more skilled at this stage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NovaScotian View Post
    any predictions on what her jersey number will be? i'm hoping for a 13 from him.
    I may be mistaken, but this is the way I see the jersey number situation:

    Retired
    4 J.J. Redick
    10 Dick Groat
    11 Bobby Hurley
    22 Jason Williams
    23 Sheldon Williams
    24 Johnny Dawkins
    25 Art Heyman
    31 Shane Battier
    32 Christian Laettner
    33 Grant Hill
    35 Danny Ferry
    43 Mike Gminski
    44 Jeff Mullins

    Current
    3 Tyler Thornton
    5 Mason Plumlee
    15 Josh Hairston
    20 Andre Dawkins
    21 Miles Plumlee
    30 Seth Curry
    34 Ryan Kelly
    51 David Mayer
    52 Todd Zafirovski

    3, 4, 5, 10, 11, 15, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 43, 44, 51, and 52 are not available.
    1, 2, 12, 13, 14, 40, 41, 42, 45, 50, 53, 54, and 55 are available.
    1 (unlikely), 2 (Nolan), and 12 (Kyle) I’m assuming are doubtful to be chosen.
    This leaves only 10 numbers for incoming recruits. It has been discussed in other threads, but maybe it is time, or close to time to “honor” numbers as opposed to retiring them. It would also be nice to change the rules to allow numbers 6-9.

    FWIW I believe Gbinije wore 15 in HS.

  7. #207
    Quote Originally Posted by Reddevil View Post
    I may be mistaken, but this is the way I see the jersey number situation:

    Retired
    4 J.J. Redick
    10 Dick Groat
    11 Bobby Hurley
    22 Jason Williams
    23 Sheldon Williams
    24 Johnny Dawkins
    25 Art Heyman
    31 Shane Battier
    32 Christian Laettner
    33 Grant Hill
    35 Danny Ferry
    43 Mike Gminski
    44 Jeff Mullins

    Current
    3 Tyler Thornton
    5 Mason Plumlee
    15 Josh Hairston
    20 Andre Dawkins
    21 Miles Plumlee
    30 Seth Curry
    34 Ryan Kelly
    51 David Mayer
    52 Todd Zafirovski

    3, 4, 5, 10, 11, 15, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 43, 44, 51, and 52 are not available.
    1, 2, 12, 13, 14, 40, 41, 42, 45, 50, 53, 54, and 55 are available.
    1 (unlikely), 2 (Nolan), and 12 (Kyle) I’m assuming are doubtful to be chosen.
    This leaves only 10 numbers for incoming recruits. It has been discussed in other threads, but maybe it is time, or close to time to “honor” numbers as opposed to retiring them. It would also be nice to change the rules to allow numbers 6-9.

    FWIW I believe Gbinije wore 15 in HS.
    What happened to 6, 7, 8 and 9?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Indoor66 View Post
    What happened to 6, 7, 8 and 9?
    More difficult for the refs to signal foul calls. Now, they can signal the numbers with a single motion using both hands and outstretched fingers. For "66", they would presumably have to do a double signal of "6".

    Don't know if there is a rule change contemplated; most schools don't have the quantity of retired jersey numbers that Duke does. And, overall, it's a nice problem to have to think that so many guys have been great college players.

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    video feature

    Here's a brief feature on Gbinije and fellow Benedictine alum Ed Davis from a Richmond station. Benedictine alums discuss Duke--UNC

    I'm a little surprised about how close in height Michael seems to Ed Davis.

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    Quote Originally Posted by roywhite View Post
    Here's a brief feature on Gbinije and fellow Benedictine alum Ed Davis from a Richmond station. Benedictine alums discuss Duke--UNC

    I'm a little surprised about how close in height Michael seems to Ed Davis.
    I've read reports that he has grown to 6'8" but had heard others discount the reports. From the video he does look like he might be taller than the 6'6" he's normally listed as, but it's hard to tell from the camera angle. So who knows.

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    Wow. Silent G got BIG.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yancem View Post
    I've read reports that he has grown to 6'8" but had heard others discount the reports. From the video he does look like he might be taller than the 6'6" he's normally listed as, but it's hard to tell from the camera angle. So who knows.
    I was skeptical too on the reports, it was hard to see in the Jordan Brand Game Highlights, but Davis is a legitimate 6-10, so Silent G looks very close to 6-8 and long too. Great news as a defender at least.

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    Silent G reminds me a bit of Mike Dunleavy---long, versatile wing, late growth spurt, all-around game, sweet looking shooting stroke, good court sense.

    Just my hunch at this point, but I see him as a very productive player who can exceed expectations. Glad to have him.

  14. #214
    i think i found my new favorite duke player

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    Quote Originally Posted by roywhite View Post
    Silent G reminds me a bit of Mike Dunleavy---long, versatile wing, late growth spurt, all-around game, sweet looking shooting stroke, good court sense.

    Just my hunch at this point, but I see him as a very productive player who can exceed expectations. Glad to have him.
    Agreed, it might take a year or two for the statistical production to come, but when it does it will come in multi-categories and larger than people may expect. In the video he appeared a really nice kid to go along with his physical attributes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by darjum View Post
    I was skeptical too on the reports, it was hard to see in the Jordan Brand Game Highlights, but Davis is a legitimate 6-10, so Silent G looks very close to 6-8 and long too. Great news as a defender at least.
    If he truly is 6'8", that helps take the sting out of not getting Daniels. Going into next season, one of my bigger concerns is, how do we handle other team's taller and athletic 3's (most specifically Barnes). I think that Dawkins did a nice job defensively on Barnes during the acc tournament game but he only had to guard him for short stretches. While Murphy is bigger and pretty athletic (at least as athletic as Singler), I think that expecting him to guard Barnes as an early arriving freshman might be too much to ask. But a 6'8" Gbinige could be just what the doctor ordered. I think he is athletic enough and has just the right size chip on his shoulder that he might be able to become a pest to the black falcon.

    I'm looking forward to seeing what he can do. I think that he will be a pleasant surprise!

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    Quote Originally Posted by yancem View Post
    If he truly is 6'8", that helps take the sting out of not getting Daniels. Going into next season, one of my bigger concerns is, how do we handle other team's taller and athletic 3's (most specifically Barnes). I think that Dawkins did a nice job defensively on Barnes during the acc tournament game but he only had to guard him for short stretches. While Murphy is bigger and pretty athletic (at least as athletic as Singler), I think that expecting him to guard Barnes as an early arriving freshman might be too much to ask. But a 6'8" Gbinige could be just what the doctor ordered. I think he is athletic enough and has just the right size chip on his shoulder that he might be able to become a pest to the black falcon.

    I'm looking forward to seeing what he can do. I think that he will be a pleasant surprise!
    I am also very excited to have Gbinijie on board and am excited to see what he and Murphy can do off the bench as versatile weapons that could potentially play multiple positions. But I expect that a Junior Dawkins will likely get first crack at guarding taller wing forwards to start the year, as he has done so for Duke in the past. I am not too worried about how Duke will defend a likely top end of the lottery pick as there are not a whole lot of them out there and coach K will figure something out when the time comes. I will be very interested to see how many minutes Gbinijie (and Murphy) will get early on and as the season progresses.
    “Those two kids, they’re champions,” Krzyzewski said of his senior leaders. “They’re trying to teach the other kids how to become that, and it’s a long road to become that.”

  18. #218
    Quote Originally Posted by yancem View Post
    If he truly is 6'8", that helps take the sting out of not getting Daniels. Going into next season, one of my bigger concerns is, how do we handle other team's taller and athletic 3's (most specifically Barnes). I think that Dawkins did a nice job defensively on Barnes during the acc tournament game but he only had to guard him for short stretches. While Murphy is bigger and pretty athletic (at least as athletic as Singler), I think that expecting him to guard Barnes as an early arriving freshman might be too much to ask. But a 6'8" Gbinige could be just what the doctor ordered. I think he is athletic enough and has just the right size chip on his shoulder that he might be able to become a pest to the black falcon.

    I'm looking forward to seeing what he can do. I think that he will be a pleasant surprise!
    I would doubt he is 6'8" - not from the games I saw him play at the end of the season- he looks to be a legit 6'6" but not a great leaper. Still the kid has skills and I am hoping will develop into a very good defender in K's system. Duke's D will be the biggest question mark this season-losing the two best defenders in Nolan and Kyle. The system is complicated and with lots of new faces and no defensive star left- K has a lot of work and teaching to do. Having the summer trips this year will help a lot.
    dukelifer

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    Quote Originally Posted by NSDukeFan View Post
    I am also very excited to have Gbinijie on board and am excited to see what he and Murphy can do off the bench as versatile weapons that could potentially play multiple positions. But I expect that a Junior Dawkins will likely get first crack at guarding taller wing forwards to start the year, as he has done so for Duke in the past. I am not too worried about how Duke will defend a likely top end of the lottery pick as there are not a whole lot of them out there and coach K will figure something out when the time comes. I will be very interested to see how many minutes Gbinijie (and Murphy) will get early on and as the season progresses.
    It's been said before, but with the loss of Nolan, Kyle, and Kyrie, and a major influx of new players, this year's team, while talented and promising, will be a work in progress for a while. So happy that we've got the Dubai/China trip and the related summer practices before and during the trip to give the staff time to mold the team.

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    Quote Originally Posted by darjum View Post
    I was skeptical too on the reports, it was hard to see in the Jordan Brand Game Highlights, but Davis is a legitimate 6-10, so Silent G looks very close to 6-8 and long too. Great news as a defender at least.
    It's pretty hard to tell from this video, though. When they are sitting down Davis is slouching, and you can't tell how much height either has in the legs versus the body. When they are standing up, the camera angles are odd--in one shot there is someone talking to them (the interviewer?) who looks almost as tall as Gbinije.

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