It's a very entertaining interview, I think. I have to say that I'm with Jon, though, on the beard for Zoubs. Gottlieb's all wrong about that one.
You can actually go here - http://search.espn.go.com/scheyer/ - and scroll just a bit to "The Doug Gottlieb Show" for a version that's only Jon's interview without the 19 minutes of rambling beforehand.