Wow Cdu is right... sheesh. I will give it a whirl though.
"If Murphy were a game changer you can bet he would not have been redshirted this year." Murphy asked to be redshirted and it was his idea 100% because he should have been in high school and not at Duke this past year so he sat out and tried to get ready physically for next season.
"dreaming of a new Quinn Cook......mainly because they can't imagine our future with T.T." What do you mean dreaming of a new Cook? If you mean we expect him to get better like almost every player does in their second year then yes I agree we are "dreaming". He also will be a year removed from a major knee injury and will have more time to practice this summer with the team. As for TT, it's not we can't see him running the point because he certainly did ok the past year and it was his first year getting minutes. It's just he comes across as more of the hustle, energetic, fierceness you need in a team rather than a bonafide starting pg (Kind of like another Wojo)
"hoping for a Plumlee miracle for four years and am still waiting" What is it you want from Mason exactly? He has improved every year so far and had a good year last year. 11 ppg/9 rpg/2 assists/2 blocks/ 1stpg and 3 fouls per game in 28 minutes and thats not to mention he shot 57% from the floor! Not too many teams will be getting that kind of production out of their starting center. He also was not a focal point of the offense late in the year (Seth and Austin got the call most). Like I said he has improved every year so let's see what he can do next year to add on to those already solid results.
If Parker and Jefferson both go elsewhere, we will obviously be in a major recruiting slump Seriously?!?!?! Lets just start in 2009 for the sake of it since these guys will be seniors this year.
2009: #2 Center, #6 PF (won 3pt contest as well), A transfer who was the highest scoring freshmen in college, and Andre Dawkins who before he reclassified was ranked top 20 overall and considered the best shooter.
2010: This would have been a "down" recruiting year with the # 7 PF and # 24 PG but we wrapped it up with the best player in the entire class PG Kyrie Irving.
2011: Was huge as we got 5 players that play 4 different positions and all were top 100! # 1 SG, # 3 C, # 7 PG (was ranked higher till injury sidelined him for entire senior season), # 7 SF, and another SF who before he reclassified was a top 15 overall player.
2012: Is still not done but we got the # 3 SG and is considered the best shooter. I personally hope we get nobody else in this class and save it for next year but that's just me.
So our roster is currently:
PG- #7 and #24
SG- A top 20 guy and highest scoring freshmen and #3
SF- #7 and top 15 guy
PF- #6 and #7
C- #2 and #3
Not bad at all and what drought!!!! We just won it all in 2010!
Anyone know of a recent Duke miss- a player Duke lost in a recruiting battle- who went on to lead their team to the national championship. Wall - no, Monroe- no, Wright- no, Barnes - no, Tyler Adams- not yet. Which Duke miss had the best college career- i.e. All American caliber?
Would have loved to have added Bazz to our already loaded lineup. Mostly, at this point, I'm just glad he didn't go to UK and I'm glad that Noel and Bazz aren't playing together at either school.
As for us, I think Quinn is going to be a great soph. Alex is going to be a great redshirt Frosh. Mason is going to be a beast. Duke is going to be top 10 (mostly top 5) all year and we will have a fair shot next March. Yeah, with Bazz we would have been better but Sheed will help as well and we will excel.
Boy this thread does a good job of making one go pick up an adult beverage. Goodnight all... but let's have perspective. Our teams going to be a great next season.
2009-2010 can't come soon enough.
To address some of your other points, doesn't EVERY team put up its biggest point totals against bad teams? That's part of what distinguishes a bad team: everyone else lays the hammer on you. I would also argue that in many ways our offense was kind of remarkably steady. We won a lot of close games against excellent competition, and that could not have happened without a dependable scoring punch night in, night out. We certainly could not count on our defense to carry the day. Finally, the lineup did shift as you say, but a) K has a history of extensive in-season experimentation, and b) most of the tinkering seemed to me a desperate effort to do something about that end of the court where the other team gets to do stuff with the ball.
I didn't bother posting my opinion in here before he chose because I really didn't care if he came or not, and I didn't post last night since I didn't care for my thoughts to get lost in the swarm of posts right after he announced. I'm relieved that he chose elsewhere. I know the staff wanted him badly, I know lot of folks here wanted him badly, but I just cannot get behind the idea of a one and done guy. Especially not for the third year in a row. I think it is short sighted to want a guy to come with hopes of great things, such as deep tourney runs and endless highlight reels. And for two years in a row, it hasn't panned out...we've had less than admirable exits, especially this year.
Think about this...next year we will have 4 seniors...Andre, Mason, Ryan and Seth. That's what I'm talking about...I love being able to follow A TEAM through 4 years of school. They may go far, they may fall flat, they may win it all; to me it doesn't matter quite as much as the fact that I got to invest in them as a fan and was paid back handsomely in emotional reward.
Ask me about how I feel about Kyrie and Austin in 5 years and I will answer with "who?". Ask me the same about any of our current guys and I will be able to tell you I loved them or they drove me nuts (or both) and I'll be able to back myself up with lots of good stories. Great memories are not built from short visits but from long, lasting stays. Kyrie and Austin were fun to watch, but neither can ever call themselves "champion". Duke's Champions were built around teams filled with leadership and experience, and we will have both filling to the brim next season. GO DUKE!!!
The thing about the hot shot one and dones that I can't get over -- K really wants them. If he didn't pursue them as he has, then I could be at greater peace about letting them all flow to Lexington. K wants them, so there must be something to it.