Originally Posted by
Jumbo
Well, it doesn't take the absolute ridiculous lineup stats below to realize that the bench just didn't bring it against Virginia Tech. And for the second straight game, there was a huge difference with Lance Thomas on and off the court, despite his quiet statistics. His defensive contributions just can't be measured. Everything else pretty much makes sense if you watched the game.
Anyway, on to the numbers ...
Individuals
Lance Thomas 53-35 (+18)
Brian Zoubek 52-36 (+16)
Nolan Smith 67-53 (+14)
Jon Scheyer 67-55 (+12)
Kyle Singler 67-55 (+12)
Miles Plumlee 14-13 (+1)
Mason Plumlee 9-13 (-4)
Ryan Kelly 0-4 (-4)
Andre Dawkins 6-11 (-5)
Per 40 Minutes
Lance Thomas +24
Brian Zoubek +22.1
Nolan Smith +14.4
Jon Scheyer +12
Kyle Singler +12
Miles Plumlee +5
Mason Plumlee -26.7
Andre Dawkins -33.3
Ryan Kelly -80
Lineups
Scheyer-Smith-Singler-Thomas-Zoubek (x4) 47-29 (+18)
Scheyer-Smith-Singler-Thomas-Miles (x2) 5-0 (+5)
Scheyer-Smith-Singler-Mason-Zoubek 3-1 (+2)
Scheyer-Smith-Dawkins-Singler-Zoubek 2-0 (+2)
Scheyer-Dawkins-Singler-Thomas-Miles 0-0 (+0)
Scheyer-Smith-Dawkins-Singler-Miles 4-5 (-1)
Scheyer-Smith-Singler-Thomas-Mason 1-2 (-1)
Scheyer-Smith-Dawkins-Singler-Mason 0-2 (-2)
Scheyer-Smith-Dawkins-Singler-Thomas 0-2 (-2)
Scheyer-Dawkins-Singler-Thomas-Zoubek 0-2 (-2)
Scheyer-Smith-Singler-Mason-Miles (x2) 5-8 (-3)
Scheyer-Smith-Singler-Kelly-Zoubek 0-4 (-4)
I won't disagree with your comments about last game, but well, Thomas got the benefit of playing a HUGE amount of time with the Big 4 (Triple S + Zoubek), during which he got +18 and he got +18 overall. Huge Minutes and a +/- equivalent to the +/- of one lineup doesn't tell us anything.
(+Mason, Miles, and Kelly got not enough minutes to show us much).
So I sort of think this time around that the +/- of Lance being the top is kind of just luck, rather than evidence of his skill. There's a reason the top 5 +/-s in this game are close...it's cuz they played near the whole game.
<devildeac> anyone playing drinking games by now?
7:49:36<Wander> drink every qb run?
7:49:38<loran16> umm, drink every time asack rushes?
7:49:38<wolfybeard> @devildeac: drink when Asack runs a keeper
7:49:39 PM<CB&B> any time zack runs, drink
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