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  1. #21
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    Quote Originally Posted by WiJoe View Post
    PTI is the WORST show on ESPN. PERIOD.
    FALSE. The worst show by far is Jim Rome is Burning.

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    If it makes people feel better, when Coach K had his comment about the Nets job ("The guy's Russian, right? You think he's going to hire a Polish guy? Really? Really?), they loved it and were very supportive of Coach K not going to the Nets. They're not going to like everything Coach K does, but they're very supportive of him generally (especially being two DC guys) and are very warm with him when K's been on the show.
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    Unhappy Yecckkk!

    Quote Originally Posted by allenmurray View Post
    The other day Tony was talking about the athleticism of the male figure skaters. Wilbon went on and on about how he would never watch any man in any athletic event who wore sequins or feathers. The underlying tone was incredibly homophobic.
    What do costumes have to do with supposed athletic events, which is the basis for the Olympics? It is a really dreadful evoluton. I think Dick Button 62 years ago wore a suit and tie.

    I happen to agree with Wilbon.

    sagegrouse

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    tragic news out of FSU...

    Sadly, once the conch was taken from the affable overweight boy, it was shattered into pieces. It was reported that an immediate power struggle ensued in the stands triggering an avalanche of boulders which caused the boy to fall forty feet to his death. One can only wonder -- what the heck are boulders doing in the bleachers? Ralph, a close friend of the boy, was quoted as saying, "This is our island. It’s a good island. Until the grown-ups come to fetch us we’ll have fun."

    RIP, Piggy, RIP... *sniff

  5. #25
    No, no,...worst show is "Around the Horn."

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    Quote Originally Posted by WiJoe View Post
    PTI is the WORST show on ESPN. PERIOD.
    Good lord, man. ESPN has a show that features Skip Bayless.

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    ESPN has that idiot HACK STEPHEN A...nothing....NOTHING is as bad as STEPHEN A...

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    Wink Digging a Hole in Bristol

    ESPN has a studio show with Digger Phelps at the mike.

    Dick Vitale is it's lead announcer-commentator.

    Doug Gottlieb gets to voice his opinion on the air -- and he gets paid for it!

    And, is Jim Rome still alive? The only halfway decent thing he ever did was to get beaten up by QB Jim Everett on the air. He makes Geraldo Rivera look good.

    I mean, PTI, which is on at 330PM in my time zone, isn't even a ripple on the lake.

    sagegrouse

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim3k View Post
    Here's a link to the FAQ which describes the rule. Scroll to the second page:

    Hope this works. It's an html cache of a PDF file.
    FYI, for those wondering, here is the relevant rule:
    Basketball: "The playing of musical instruments and/or amplified music and the use of
    artificial noisemakers while the game is in progress shall be prohibited.
    Conch shell is a musical instrument, much the way those annoying fair horns are.

  10. #30
    I watch PTI on a fairly regular basis. Its the best sport show on TV, and I HATE espn. Kornheiser and Wilbon have great chemistry and rapport, and they actually have some intelligent things to say. Its not just NOISE like Around the Horn (sports porn).

    But to the issue of the conch shell, I don't know how closely you guys watched the game, but it was CLEARLY audible on TV. It sounded like an airhorn or a buzzer, and the student blew it like 3 or 4 times in succession.

    On a side note, in colonial Haiti, slaves blew conch shells as a signal of insurrection, a call to arms and assembly.

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    Stretching the "Conch" definition a bit

    Quote Originally Posted by sagegrouse View Post
    You ain't from Florida, are you? If he had really asked for all the "Conchs" to be removed, they would have had to clear out the joint, except for the Miami students from NY and NJ, some Snowbirds, and a few Duke fans.

    sagegrouse
    I was unaware that Sun-Tan-U was inhabited by so many born in the Keys---unless you are counting Cuba as an extension.

    ricks

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    Quote Originally Posted by theAlaskanBear View Post
    On a side note, in colonial Haiti, slaves blew conch shells as a signal of insurrection, a call to arms and assembly.
    ...imma let you finish, but ol' Roy has more passion in his little finger than Anyone in colonial Haiti...

  13. #33
    Quote Originally Posted by HateCarolina View Post
    Sorry to have to be the misogynistic and homophobic guy to speak up (very much tongue in cheek), but I agree that I do not enjoy men's figuure skating. The sequins and feathers are pretty goofy. When you watch Fox News do you expect to hear about the "great job" that Obama (even more tongue in cheek) is doing. Please I think your comment is blowing something way out of proportion.
    Quote Originally Posted by sagegrouse View Post
    What do costumes have to do with supposed athletic events, which is the basis for the Olympics? sagegrouse
    And the women's costumes are highly athletic? No, they are highly sexualized. If both competed in highly functional athletic outifits that would be fine. But the male skaters get criticized (and have thier "manliness" called into question for what they are wearing, but we love to watch young girls in their short skirts. Hmmmm. http://www.slate.com/id/2245021/

    Wilbon made no complaints about the highly sexualized costumes worn by the women, which also add nothing to athleticism. I think both gender's costumes are goofy for sporting purposes. It was Wilbon's tone, his body language, his non-verbals, his statements that they weren't manly. My impression was not that he cared about the costumes, but that what he was saying was that he was not going to watch the men because they were not in a real sport and were not macho enough. Tony tried to talk about the athleticism involved and Wilbon simply smirked. Of course no one criticizes women's figure skating as not being athletic enough for the olympics.

    But no, there is no homophobia among sportscasters, none at all.
    Last edited by allenmurray; 02-19-2010 at 08:08 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dukebluelemur View Post
    ...imma let you finish, but ol' Roy has more passion in his little finger than Anyone in colonial Haiti...
    Steve "Kanye" Kirschner in the house everybody!

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    Does anybody really not think it distracts from Johnny Weir's considerable athletic talent when he shows up looking like he cannibalized someone's lingerie drawer?

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    Quote Originally Posted by wilson View Post
    Does anybody really not think it distracts from Johnny Weir's considerable athletic talent when he shows up looking like he cannibalized someone's lingerie drawer?
    I agree that it does. I agree that the uniforms (both male and female) are ridiculous. That was not what Wilbon was doing. He was saying he refused to watch the men because of the uniforms, and he was dismissive of men's skating as an athletic event based on the costumes.

    The women's costumes are no less functional than the men's, and just as overly stylized. But they fit an image some find acceptable. The men's uniforms fit a stereotype that Wilbon clearly found discomforting, so he made fun of the sport.

    Figure skating and/or ice dancing either are sports or they are not sports, but the gender of the participants is not what makes the difference. And if the costume is what makes the difference they why are people comfortable with completely non-functional, highly decorative costumes for women but not for men?

    Teenage female figure skaters wearing non-functional, but sexualized costumes didn't bother Wilbon enough for him to be dismissive of the sport. But male skaters wearing sequins and feathers did. I don't think it is sequins and feathers that Wilbon has a problem with. That was my point - I agree that the costumes are ridiculous. But they are not designed to add to the athleticism (for either the men or women) - they are desinged to be part of the spectacle (for both the men and women). But somehow that is only an issue for one gender.
    Last edited by allenmurray; 02-19-2010 at 10:03 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by allenmurray View Post
    I don't think it is sequins and feathers that Wilbon has a problem with.
    I disagree with this assessment. I've watched a good bit of PTI, and I do not think Wilbon is in any way a homophobe or a misognynist. In fact, I think he would bristle rather strongly at this (mis)characterization. I believe the point he wanted to make was that figure skaters cheapen their sport by looking (to borrow a common Wilbon phrase) "like dopes."

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    OT, but did anybody see Shaun White playing air guitar for a few secs during the anthem?!

    I hope he doesn't get fried by the press; I laughed a bit, since he seems like a pretty nice "kid," but you never know with the anthem. He sure seemed happy and proud.

  19. #39
    Quote Originally Posted by wilson View Post
    I disagree with this assessment. I've watched a good bit of PTI, and I do not think Wilbon is in any way a homophobe or a misognynist. In fact, I think he would bristle rather strongly at this (mis)characterization. I believe the point he wanted to make was that figure skaters cheapen their sport by looking (to borrow a common Wilbon phrase) "like dopes."
    I've always liked Wilbon. Until the segment the other day I would have agreed with you. Did you see it? He came across horribly.

    And I still don't understand why folks find the highly sexualized outfits worn by teenage girls to be okay, but "silly" outfits worn by men to be worthy of ridicule. I find the outfits worn by some of the women to be a bit creepy. Read the Slate article for a look at the decision making process the women go through on just how "sexy" to be in order to impress the judges and win. Eroticized dancing (Kwan as Salome) in sexualized outifts is fine, but men appearing feminine, (and therefore, oh my gosh, maybe gay) gets you ridiculed on television by Wilbon.

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    As for the rules, I would imagine that the rule is something to the effect that you're not allowed to use any implement to artificially make loud sounds and would guess that a conch shell fits that description. So from that perspective K had grounds to make his request but still I would rather the Duke block it out and make their free throws anyway.
    Yes i could hear it aswell and it sounded alot like the horn at the scorers table and mike patrick even said that "horn type devices" were'nt allowed in the gym and was wondering how it even got by security on the kids way in.Really?like the miami security was going to care about that? It was amazingly loud under the free throw situation when i heard it.

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