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    Anyone else concerned with Dawkins' lack of playing time

    Big duke balls said it best

    "What am I missing? The last time I checked, he was still hitting 47% of his shots, including over 45% of his three pointers. He is also a 87% shooter from the free throw line? Why is Coach K not playing our only backup guard?"

    We are going to need Dawkins to being playing well down the stretch of our schedule to have a chance at going deep in the NCAA tourne.

    Just trying to get some other opinions...

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    My guess is that he hasn't been sharp in practice recently, which is completely understandable.

    On top of the normal adjustment to college life for a freshman, he's lost his sister, missed his first final exams of his college career and has probably had to make up those exams over the past week.

    I love watching him play so I hope he gets it together soon.

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    I want you guys who are worried about Dre's PT to look at something real quick:

    http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/...?playerId=46255

    3 games out of 14 he's gotten under 17 minutes. He's gonna play. This kid is good and K knows it.

    He also couldn't take his exams before the break and more than likely spent a large portion of his holiday break NOT concerned with school. I'm sure Kenny King and the rest of his advisers have given him ample time to recover from the tragedy he just suffered and he is probably in the midst of exams. Quite possibly, he didn't practice much at all before the Clemson game and was not prepared whatsoever for the press he was to face. That game didn't really feel comfortable to me at all until Andre went in.

    Tonight's game was a showcase for Jon Scheyer, and it seemed like many, many plays were run for him(iso's), etc. Dawkins will get his time to shine. He'll play. Our perimeter guys HAVE to play because we're so thin at that position. We're going to see a lot of Nolan, Jon, and Kyle all year long so if it bothers you, you're in for a long season. Andre will play not much more or less than many other highly regarded freshman out there. He's averaging 18 mpg. Any more and a lot of people would be saying he's playing too many.
    Last edited by airowe; 01-07-2010 at 08:10 AM.

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    To answer the question leading this thread... NO.

    Fretting about how many minutes K is giving to the bench... where have I heard that before?

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    Quote Originally Posted by airowe View Post
    I want you guys who are worried about Dre's PT to look at something real quick:

    http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/...?playerId=46255

    3 games out of 14 he's gotten under 17 minutes. He's gonna play. This kid is good and K knows it.

    He also couldn't take his exams before the break and more than likely spent a large portion of his holiday break NOT concerned with school. I'm sure Kenny King and the rest of his advisers have given him ample time to recover from the tragedy he just suffered and he is probably in the midst of exams. Quite possibly, he didn't practice much at all before the Clemson game and was not prepared whatsoever for the press he was to face. That game didn't really feel comfortable to me at all until Andre went in.

    Tonight's game was a showcase for Jon Scheyer, and it seemed like many, many plays were run for him(iso's), etc. Dawkins will get his time to shine. He'll play. Our perimeter guys HAVE to play because we're so thin at that position. We're going to see a lot of Nolan, Jon, and Kyle all year long so if it bothers you, you're in for a long season. Andre will play not much more or less than many other highly regarded freshman out there. He's averaging 18 mpg. Any more and a lot of people would be saying he's playing too many.
    I hope your right in that Dre's minutes will soon return now that he has his exams behind him. I'm not one that think he should still be playing 20 minutes a game during conference play, but 10-12 minutes a game giving guys a rest and maybe getting a couple of buckets would really help.
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    Well, it's certainly something to keep an eye on, but I don't think it's a cause for alarm yet. Now, if the trend continues well into the ACC season, there might be cause for concern. But I suspect that, within the next few games, we'll see Dawkins get back into the 15-20 minutes per game range.

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    Agreed. I would be worried if he continues to only get 5 or 6 minutes a game. Let's see what happens.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CDu View Post
    Well, it's certainly something to keep an eye on, but I don't think it's a cause for alarm yet. Now, if the trend continues well into the ACC season, there might be cause for concern. But I suspect that, within the next few games, we'll see Dawkins get back into the 15-20 minutes per game range.
    I think this is exactly right. Andre is a really good player and in my opinion, it would be unbelievably stupid for him to average only ~5 minutes against ACC teams. But I assume that won't be the case and am not concerned right now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DUKIECB View Post
    I hope your right in that Dre's minutes will soon return now that he has his exams behind him. I'm not one that think he should still be playing 20 minutes a game during conference play, but 10-12 minutes a game giving guys a rest and maybe getting a couple of buckets would really help.
    There's really no reason to think I'm wrong. All three of the games in which Andre played less than 17 mpg (more than you suggest he should get) have come after the death of his sister and during the period in which he would be making up for lost time.

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    I agree that I think hopefully this is a short term occurrence, but he and mason (to me) are going to need to become consistent contributors as the season progresses. K has been known to limit freshman's minutes as the ACC schedule starts...

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    You guys crowing about Dre's minutes are ridiculous and disturbingly unobservant. Dre has played significant minutes ALL SEASON and K literally can't take away his minutes since we only have 4 TOTAL scholarship guards.

    Please Please Please people... think about it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlueintheFace View Post
    You guys crowing about Dre's minutes are ridiculous and disturbingly unobservant. Dre has played significant minutes ALL SEASON and K literally can't take away his minutes since we only have 4 TOTAL scholarship guards.

    Please Please Please people... think about it.
    All 3 of the games in which Andre has played under 17 mpg have been since his sister's death and during the Holiday/makeup exam period. He's still averaging right at 18 mpg. Not too shabby for a Freshman playing behind our 3 best players. Show me another Freshman in the country playing behind 3 first or second team All-Conference players who is averaging more minutes than Andre.

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    I've also heard he's been sick the past week

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    On the topic of freshman, Andre Dawkins was ranked #5 by John Gasaway among his Top 25 Freshmen in the nation.

    Only 2 other ACC players made it, Derrick Favors (#7) and Miami's Reggie Johnson (#21).

    Dawkins will be fine, and Duke will absolutely need him during conference play.
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    I would assume that he had to study for and then take finals within the past two weeks (while the team probably had a full practice schedule). I wouldn't be surprised if K excused him from some practices during all this as well, to make sure he successfully completes his finals.
    You have to admire what this kid has been through. This entire last 8 months for him has been quite a chore.
    He seems to have the strength of character to get it done.
    No doubt in a few weeks with the stress of finals gone and a little bit more time to heal from the tragedy, he will be back to where K wants him to be.

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    He and Scheyer are my favorite players on this years team. I would hope to see him more on the court this year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Devilsfan View Post
    He and Scheyer are my favorite players on this years team. I would hope to see him more on the court this year.
    He's playing almost 18 mpg even with 3 out of the last 4 under 10.

    Reports are starting to surface he's been under the weather the last week or so as well. This ties in with his lack of PT over that time and makes perfect sense. No doubt he's been going through a whole lot mentally lately, which always has an effect on my physical health.

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    Quote Originally Posted by airowe View Post
    No doubt he's been going through a whole lot mentally lately, which always has an effect on my physical health.
    Now that's empathy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NSDukeFan View Post
    Now that's empathy.
    He's the Tomax to my Xamot.


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    Quote Originally Posted by airowe View Post
    He's the Tomax to my Xamot.


    Wow... holy cow, I am SO impressed. Seriously. What a reference.

    Realistically, the lack of time against Clemson isn't so crazy... Andre is not the best ball handler yet, and against their full court pressure, that could have been a bit much.

    Against Iowa State I would have liked to see him play a bit more... let's see what happens in upcoming games!

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