A lady at a grocery store was hagging me about my Duke T-Shirt. She loudly proclaimed "You need to be a Carolina Fan, everybody loves UNC". I responded, "Yes, your are right, there are more UNC fans but Duke fans are like the MARINES...The Few and The Proud" and we support our teams with honor and true integrity unlike UNC and their multitude of "bandwagon fans".
Anyway, we lost out on HB but keeping up with the theme of the Marines, Duke will adjust and adapt to the current situation. We've responded well from adversity before and will continue to do so.
"Not everything that is faced can be changed, but nothing can be changed until it is faced" - James Baldwin
Ok, I want to talk about big guys. Next year we will have the Plumlees and Josh Hairston. Singler can play PF as well but is more naturally a SF. Kelly also seems like a 3/4. Quincy Miller (if he comes) is listed as a PF. Marshall Plumlee is big but I would suppose his game to be simlar to his brothers.
So from the looks of things, the closest player to a true center we will have from 2010-2012 is Miles Plumlee. Is anyone else concerned by this? I know that Duke's offense does not rely on a traditional post player, but it still seems odd that we will not have one on our roster. Am I missing some other targets on our recruiting radar? It seems like most of the attention on the boards has focused on guards and wing players, but to me landing a big guy is a more pressing need.
I think Miles fits the bill pretty darn well. I love having him at the five. He'll probably be 6-10, 240-odd for the next 3 years, which is certainly big enough for a center, but IMO he plays even bigger than that due to his extremely quick jumping ability and affinity for physical contact. I'm doing my best not to get excited until we play some real teams with big guys that are his size, but it's nice to finally have a "beast" under the basket. I loved when the UNC-G big guy tried to get tough and back him down on an iso, and Miles just stood him up, cuffed his shot and threw it back down into his face.
If he can learn to a) avoid picking up body-contact fouls on defense and b) learn some power post moves like a drop step that would make use of his explosiveness around the rim, I really think he'll develop into a huge presence down low. He'll probably never be a polished, HansWow-type 20 ppg scorer, but it just helps everything else so much when you have an agile, mobile and hostile big guy holding down the fort inside.
I wouldn't necessarily have been scared of a Shavlik Randolph or Josh McRoberts if I was an opponent, or really even Shelden Williams. However, I just wouldn't really want to mix it up with Miles... he's the kind of athlete that can just embarrass you.
I'm not quite as knowledgeable as some of the other people on the board. Can someone explain the difference between a 4 & 5 (PF and C)? I'm not sure how they are used differently, and what that means in terms of ideal physical talents.
There is essentially no difference. In college, they are same thing. However, in these cases, 5 would guard the other teams' biggest player, 4 would guard the more perimeter oriented of the big men. They usually play that role on offense too. That is why Miles plays "5" and Mason "4." Mason has more perimeter skills, maybe not as inclined to play inside. Miles like to dunk and shoot hook shots. It seems we prefer them to be interchangable, but the bigger guy usually takes the other teams' bigger guy. I think both Miles and Mason have similar skills and will be great in both roles.
But again, versatility is the name of the game these days because it creates mismatches. in the 90's, George Karl routinely would run isolation plays for Gary Payton so he could post up smaller point guards. And on the other end, Sabonis would routinely shoot the three-ball. That trend has only continued.
What the heck happened to Kendall Williams? I remember he was a 5 star prospect who committed to UCLA real early. I can't find why but does anybody know why he's no longer committed there?
also the position you play has a lot to do with your teammates.
duncan was a center in college
he played power forward to start his career because of david robinson. stayed playing the power forward position most of his career, when the spurs had guys like nestorvic and elson, but now duncan has taken the center position for the spurs because he playing with guys like mcdyess, blair, bonner. but he is list as pf/c.
It doesn't seem like we're pursuing any prototypical centers with our recruiting, so I'm not sure if deliberate or if it's just that there aren't any of those players available in the next two classes.