Criticism may not be agreeable, but it is necessary. It fulfils the same function as pain in the human body. It calls attention to an unhealthy state of things. - Winston Churchill
President of the "Nolan Smith Should Have His Jersey in The Rafters" Club
Quinn Cook and Marshall Plumlee are playing at the Greensboro Coliseum today. Marshall at 3:30 and Quinn at 5. Go check them out if you can: http://www.dukehoopblog.com/2011/01/...in-greensboro/
And both Quinn Cook and Austin Rivers, not surpisingly, made the team, which will compete against the World Select Team. Whole roster can be found here.
Congrats Austin and Quinn.
Sorry if I meissed it elsewhere, but anyone aware of how the Shabazz Muhammed visit went? Any other visitors (other than Austin) for the UVA game to report on?
Marshall Plumlee gets double-double in front of Coach K
With Duke head coach Mike Krzyzewski in attendance, Blue Devil signee Marshall Plumlee scored 12 points and pulled down 12 rebounds in Christ School's 83-48 rout of Greensboro Day School at the MKL Classic in Greensboro, N.C.
Good for him, pretty good stat line for a blow-out win.
As his brothers two can attest he won't be playing little Johnny's private school next year. As Coach Cut puts it, "It's time to big boy up".
Fwiw, in ESPN's updated rankings, Rivers is still #1 (with Anthony Davis apparently charging hard), Gbinije is 28, Plumlee is 37, and Cook is 39 (a drop of 15 or so spots).
Final 2011 rsci rankings posted a few days ago on that site.
It's the summer-slows, so it struck me that there's stuff to ponder in this composite ranking. Especially intriguing to me is the "change" column. [Change is from Sept 2010 composite rankings to this final, June 2011, composite.]
Khem Birch [to Pitt] - I commented in some earlier thread that I was impressed with his play in some all-star game, and wondered why he hadn't gotten a bit more PT in that game. Apparently I'm not the only one who thinks he's talented. Change of +39, pretty dramatic.
Tony Wroten [Washington] - I was mightily impressed with his passing in a couple of A-S games, and would push him even higher than his #18/chg +7. I wonder whether he's "only" #18 because he's "only" going to UW, rather than to Duke, UNC, UK, KU.
James McAdoo - Alas, UNC has a veritable, if understated, star arising in JMcA. I'd put him at #2, behind only Anthony Davis. As I noted in some other thread, JMcA's rep is as a guy with whom everyone [well, at least those on his own team] enjoys playing. It is said that "he allows the game to come to him." Fair enough, but it's in his neighborhood a whole lot. A winner, great kid. Still, and of course, 9F 9F 9F 9F 9F 9F.
AR - I wonder whether the gurus would, compositely, have him a bit lower these days. One might at least infer that from various AR threads/comments on DBR and elsewhere. Still top 5-6 probably, but #2?
P.J. Hairston - Seems a little high to have him at #11, but maybe I'm simply thinking how much better is McAdoo.
Dorian Finney-Smith [VaT] - Another significant jump, +14, to #22. I know VaT has some injured guys coming back, but F-S will presumably make some noise as a frosh.
Shannon Scott [tOSU] - #32 [Quinn Cook is #31] and a +17. For the eternal pessimists on this board, for whom, it sometimes seems, a UNC win is far more painful than is a Duke loss, well, let's hope that this UNC "legacy" [he's Charlie Scott's son] helps the Buckeyes defeat the Heels whenever they meet next spring. Also hope that it takes young Scott some time to get accustomed to the rigors of college ball, so that he commits 8 turnovers the evening of Nov. 29. Scott, btw, won't need to play any D at first, as Aaron Craft can cover the opposing PG and both wings all by himself. I'm afraid this means that Tyler, Seth, Quinn, Andre, Austin, and Michael are all in for trouble on Nov. 29. [Should the clever and/or suspicious among you infer that the entire purpose of my reviving this ancient thread was to find an excuse to sing the proverbial praises of Aaron Craft, you have caught me proverbially red-handed.]
Alex Murphy - Speaking of reviving older threads, someone might consider a new thread reviving an old theme, "Are we forgetting...... Alex Murphy?" It's perhaps fair to say that neither the gurus nor we know what to expect from the early[-arriving] AM. [There's an obvious nickname there......] As for myself, I saw Early AM twice, nay thrice, on the tele, and was impressed with him. Multi-talented, smart, plays very very well with other children. His 2011-12 season could go in any of several directions: redshirt, great learning year with but spot-duty, or surprise PT even into the ACC schedule. He's the forgotten guy, so far, as we approach October Madness, but his play will occasion many admiring comments on this board soon enough.
Marshall Plumlee - good news, bad news: +11, but "only" #61. Such is what passes for "bad news" at Duke the Entitled. Recall the great comedian Pete Gillen: ""Domzalski can't get in a game at Duke. If we had him at Virginia, we'd build a statue to him, right beside Thomas Jefferson." So, would we trade Marshall Plumlee's likely-4-year career in Durham for 2011-12 UVa's Mike Scott? Nah.
Cody Zeller [IU] - #10. Glad the Heels missed on him. Sorry the Bulldogs did, too.
Michael Gbinije - Not sure why he's -4, down a bit to #28, though I can't deny that the aforementioned Khem Birch and Tony Wroten "deserved" to pass him by. Maybe Finney-Smith, as well. I'm thrilled with Gbinije: D, smarts, glue, chip-on-shoulder, plus he's now 6'11". Or close to it. Possibly. Wait, maybe that's why he's -4: the gurus heard he's grown to 7'3", but he's got no post game. And at 7'3", now he can't guard William Buford. Crap.
Tyler Adams - #80, -7. Perhaps you are unaware that Tyler has re-reconsidered, and will be attending Duke after all. You better wake up. Whoever you are.
Josiah Turner/Nick Johnson [UAA] - #s14 and 22, these guys got game and will play right away at the Univ. of Accursed Arizona.
Looking forward to whatever tidbits other posters can mine from this composite stuff. After a delightful and safe Fourth. Or at least until after the delightfully informative Sunday morn news shows. Is this a great country or what?
Last edited by gumbomoop; 07-03-2011 at 10:37 AM. Reason: typos
Good work by gumbomoop.
A few random thoughts on the list
* Kentucky with #1 Davis, #3 Gilchrist, #7 Teague, and #19 Wiltjer is absolutely loaded; the key guy here could be Teague; how quickly he is able to handle PG duties will be important for the Wildcats
* Tyler Adams dropped to #80, and shows Duke as his school, in a mistake here
* Florida State got two mid-size wings, Thomas #62 and Space #67; Leonard Hamilton continues to get guys that allows them to have a long, tough defense
* Va Tech did well, with 3 players on this list, #22 Finney-Smith, #86 Brown, and #100 Barksdale, all from in-state
* Have to say it's interesting to see 98 of the top 100 prospects headed to 4-year colleges (I count 2 JuCo); what are the percentage of college-bound graduates these days from a typical high school, or from an urban high school? Makes me wonder how many of the players are capable of doing college level work, or will be asked to? Just my .02, but it adds fuel to the concept that these guys should have a path to their vocation of pro basketball, that may not include going to college.
If Abdul Gaddy regains his health, UW will be solid in the back court with Gaddy and Wroten both able to play point and off the ball.
United States Navy (Retired)
Interesting to see how many potential sleepers are outside of the top 35-40.
#39 Johnny O'Bryant
#41 Ben McLemore
#44 LaQuinton Ross
#55 Michael Chandler
...are all top 10-20 talents, in my opinion. Remains to be seen if they actually pan out though.
There's also a huge amount of parity in PG in this class; from watching them play, I'm not sure #s 81 and 91 Myles Mack and Nadir Tharpe aren't better than some of their top 30 counterparts.
Makes you see how the Derrick Williamses can slip through the cracks sometimes.
Coincidentally, my Father is being recognized by Duke this Fall for his Humanitarian efforts in working to get underpriviledged kids into college.