Roscoe doesn't wear a vest does he?
I got REALLY tired of hearing about Barnes' vest.
I got the impression that yesterday's press conference was more of a product launch than an announcement of where he would go to school. The only thing missing was a pair of Nike Harrisons, but those will come in a year or two.
Scout published an article either yesterday or today about Duke going after Smith, but I don't have access to their articles. Does anyone know what that article said, and are there any other sources? If so, that is great news.
I believe Jim is correct here.
Roscoe Smith, Quincy Miller, and Austin Rivers are all probably Duke leans at this moment to be honest. The question is how much stock you actually put in a recruit being a Duke lean. That certainly varies from fan to fan...
Andre Dawkins -- 2011 Final Four MOP
Jim Sumner is a credible source, IMO.
And, I think it's generally worth pointing out that this is a 2011 recruiting thread. Let's not get too carried away with the Roscoe Smith talk... there's a separate thread for getting carried away about that.
I think we should try to avoid bashing HB now. If he had chosen the good guys, I doubt any of this (over-the-top ceremony, seems full of himself, w/e)would be of concern to us.
I really hope we can land Roscoe Smith, can never hurt to have a super athletic frontcourt player. It seems like in the past, a good number of our recruits have had the skills and smarts but lacked explosiveness/"bounce". Coach K can teach a guy how to play and coach up skills, but some things just aren't going to change.
Definitely agree with how meaningless the term "a Duke lean" means. The only time it matters is when they actually announce. ughhh.
Look, Duke would be better with Barnes than without him. Duke wanted Barnes, expected to sign him and didn't. Sucky that Duke missed on Barnes. Double sucky that they lost him to UNC.
Barnes is the third key recruit in the last ten years who Duke expected to sign and didn't. The other two were Jared Jeffries and Brandan Wright.
Duke got in late with Patrick Patterson and John Wall and never caught up to the leaders, in Wall's case a coach not a school. Duke had good vibes from Monroe but he ended his recruitment before even making an official to Duke. Florida and Duke were perceived as 50-50 for Boynton.
But let's look at who's in, not who's out. Just a few weeks ago Duke got a committment from a consensus top-five recruit at a position of need. Yet, to read this and other Duke boards you would think it never happened.
Irving is the second top-five recruit to pick Duke in the last four years; how many schools can make that claim? And he will join guys like Nolan Smith, Mason Plumlee, Ryan Kelly, Andre Dawkins, and Josh Hairston. And maybe Singler.
These guys didn't just show up on the discard heap. Duke got them by winning recruiting battles against Kansas, Kentucky, UCLA, Louisville, Villanova, Indiana, Georgetown, and yes, the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill.
And don't forget Mr. Curry. Think he couldn't have gone just about anywhere? Yet, Duke locked him up within days of his departure from Liberty. This would be the same Seth Curry who beat out Kenny Boynton for a spot on the U.S. U-19 team last summer, the same Seth Curry that Andrew Goodman said was the best player on the court during a recent Duke practice.
And Curry may well not start next year.
So let's not make that all-too-easy-jump from the specific to the general. You win some, you lose some on the recruiting trail. That was the case with John Wooden, Dean Smith, Adolph Rupp, and Bob Knight. It's the case with Mike Krzyzewski and it's the case with Roy Williams.
I'm reasonably certain that Duke isn't going anywhere. But no, I don't have a link for that.
Just asking for some perspective here, folks.
I agree with Jim. We have a nicely stocked cupboard. Let's enjoy it and see how far it takes us. I bet it will be a great ride. We have a truly great junior in Singler, a stellar and dependable guard in Scheyer, players who understand good defense and put themselves on the floor to make plays, and terrific talent for the years to come. Whether Smith comes or not, we will have a great team next year and will compete for the big prize. Focusing on the talent we miss on will not make us a better team.
Thanks for the link on Jim Sumner, very interesting. Regarding Barnes, I note that the sun has continued to rise in the east every morning. I expect that will continue.
Jim is almost always right, as is Al Featherston. Linked below are some posts from them that might help you keep recruiting in perspective:
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@qmillertime Just got off the phone with coach K..headed to Duke tomorrow for the game..
quincy miller's twitter a little while ago
The most useless post I will post:
@qmillertime is an awesome Tweet name. Don't know much about Miller other than he's a highly rated PF for the class of 2010. That said, with a Tweet account name like that, I want him!
you know what i meant