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  1. #21
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    Interesting thing from the draft site - Jennings is projected in the top five. That's Jennings of 'forget college, I'm playing in Europe' fame.

    If that's the case, looks like that worked out well enough for him.

  2. #22
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    Chad Ford has Ed Davis at #4 in this mock draft. Maybe he will Dunleavy (v., intransitive, to change one's mind about declaring for the NBA draft after initially proclaiming an intention to stay)

    Oh and Henderson is not in the top 20.
    Singler is IRON

    I STILL GOT IT! -- Ryan Kelly, March 2, 2013

  3. #23
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    Team tracker for player movement

    Below is a list of the ESPN/USA mens Top 25 teams with the players that they are losing, either to senior attrition, the draft, or to transfer. Only players who averaged over 10 MPG are included.

    I did this last year also, in case anyone wants to compare.

    1. UNC (4) - Hansborough 6-9, Green 6-5, Frasor 6-2, Lawson 5-11(NBA?)
    2. MSU (2) - Suton 6-10, Walton 6-2
    3. UCONN (3) - Adrien 6-7, Austrie 6-3, Thabeet 7-3 (NBA?)
    4. Villanova (3) - Clark 6-7, Anderson 6-6, Cunningham 6-8
    5. Louisville (3) - Williams 6-6, McGee 5-10, Clark 6-7 (NBA)
    6. Pitt (4) - Fields 5-10, Biggs 6-8, Young 6-8, Blair 6-7 (NBA?)
    7. Oklahoma (3) - Johnson 6-3, Griffin 6-7, Griffin 6-10 (NBA)
    8. Missouri (3) - Carrol 6-8, Lyons 6-9, Lawrence 6-7
    9. Memphis (3) - Dozier 6-9, Anderson 6-6, Evans 6-6 (NBA?)
    10. Kansas (0)
    11. Duke (2) - Paulus 6-0, McClure 6-5
    12. Syracuse (0)
    13. Gonzaga (3) - Pargo 6-2, Downs 6-8, Heytvelt 6-11
    14. Purdue (2) - Green 6-6, Calasan 6-9
    15. Xavier (2) - Raymond 6-6, Anderson 6-6
    16. Washington (2) - Dentmon 5-11, Brockman 6-7
    17. LSU (4) - Thornton 6-4, Martin 6-6, Temple 6-6, Johnson 6-11
    18. UCLA (3) - Collison 6-0, Shipp 6-4, Aboya 6-9
    19. ASU (1) - Pendergraph 6-9
    20. WFU (2) - Hale 6-3, Johnson 6-8 (NBA)
    21. Marquette (4) - James 5-11, Burke 6-8, McNeil 6-3, Matthews 6-5
    22. FSU (2) - Douglas 6-2, Echefu 6-8
    23. Texas (2) - Abrams 5-11, Atchley 6-10
    24. Arizona (0)
    25. Butler (0)


    While Kansas and Syracuse don't lose any seniors, alot depends on what Collins and Flynn do. Arizona and Butler don't lose any seniors and I'm not sure anyone on their teams could go in the first round, so they are looking good for a big move upwards next year.

    I was looking at this same list from last year and its remarkable that Kansas made the sweet 16 this year and finished 10th after losing 7 players from last year.

    Duke moved up 5 spots from last year, somewhat dissapointing with all that they had returning. If Henderson goes to the NBA than I'm not sure Duke would move up next year.

    The big easy had teams finish 3rd thru 6th. Pretty impressive, though they lose alot for next year.

  4. #24
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    Bye bye Budi (nger)


  5. #25
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    What about A.J. Price for UConn?
    Singler is IRON

    I STILL GOT IT! -- Ryan Kelly, March 2, 2013

  6. #26

    Davis to return

    http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/ncaato...ory?id=4048617

    Sorry if this was already posted elsewhere

  7. #27
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    Harden fast


  8. #28
    I could see Ed Davis pulling a Luol Deng... initially no thoughts about leaving early, but under intense pressure to go "one-and-done" after a standout NCAA tournament on a star-laden team.

  9. #29
    Devan Downey from South Carolina is gone

  10. #30
    chase budinger declared -

  11. #31
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    Below is a list of the ESPN/USA mens Top 25 teams with the players that they are losing, either to senior attrition, the draft, or to transfer. Only players who averaged over 10 MPG are included.

    I did this last year also, in case anyone wants to compare.

    1. UNC (4) - Hansborough 6-9, Green 6-5, Frasor 6-2, Lawson 5-11(NBA?)
    2. MSU (2) - Suton 6-10, Walton 6-2
    3. UCONN (3) - Adrien 6-7, Austrie 6-3, Thabeet 7-3 (NBA?)
    4. Villanova (3) - Clark 6-7, Anderson 6-6, Cunningham 6-8
    5. Louisville (3) - Williams 6-6, McGee 5-10, Clark 6-7 (NBA)
    6. Pitt (4) - Fields 5-10, Biggs 6-8, Young 6-8, Blair 6-7 (NBA?)
    7. Oklahoma (3) - Johnson 6-3, Griffin 6-7, Griffin 6-10 (NBA)
    8. Missouri (3) - Carrol 6-8, Lyons 6-9, Lawrence 6-7
    9. Memphis (3) - Dozier 6-9, Anderson 6-6, Evans 6-6 (NBA?)
    10. Kansas (0)
    11. Duke (2) - Paulus 6-0, McClure 6-5
    12. Syracuse (0)
    13. Gonzaga (3) - Pargo 6-2, Downs 6-8, Heytvelt 6-11
    14. Purdue (2) - Green 6-6, Calasan 6-9
    15. Xavier (2) - Raymond 6-6, Anderson 6-6
    16. Washington (2) - Dentmon 5-11, Brockman 6-7
    17. LSU (4) - Thornton 6-4, Martin 6-6, Temple 6-6, Johnson 6-11
    18. UCLA (3) - Collison 6-0, Shipp 6-4, Aboya 6-9
    19. ASU (2) - Pendergraph 6-9, Harden 6-5 (NBA)
    20. WFU (2) - Hale 6-3, Johnson 6-8 (NBA)
    21. Marquette (4) - James 5-11, Burke 6-8, McNeil 6-3, Matthews 6-5
    22. FSU (2) - Douglas 6-2, Echefu 6-8
    23. Texas (2) - Abrams 5-11, Atchley 6-10
    24. Arizona (1) - Budinger 6-6 (NBA)
    25. Butler (0)

    I don't think AJ Price has said whether he is going to put his name in the draft or not.

  12. #32
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    Price is a senior.
    Singler is IRON

    I STILL GOT IT! -- Ryan Kelly, March 2, 2013

  13. #33
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    Quote Originally Posted by mr. synellinden View Post
    Price is a senior.
    But he did not play 05-06 (suspended?). Did he lose that year of eligibility?

  14. #34
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    Quote Originally Posted by mr. synellinden View Post
    Price is a senior.
    Exactly.

    Aj Price is from the same 2004 recruiting class as DeMarcus Nelson lol

    Unless he asks for a 6th year due to the illness he suffered in what would have been his freshmen year, but chances are it will be dismissed after he was suspended the following season for stealing computers.

  15. #35
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    Quote Originally Posted by whereinthehellami View Post
    But he did not play 05-06 (suspended?). Did he lose that year of eligibility?
    He was a 2004 recruit. He came in a year ahead of Austrie and Adrien, who are seniors. He redshirted the 2004-2005 season and was suspended for the 2005-2006 season. He's a fifth-year senior this year.

    Also, I'd add Wayne Ellington to the list of (NBA?) for UNC. I really can't see him coming back after his tournament run, especially given that all his buddies are going to be gone.

  16. #36
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    Below is a list of the ESPN/USA mens Top 25 teams with the players that they are losing, either to senior attrition, the draft, or to transfer. Only players who averaged over 10 MPG are included.

    I did this last year also, in case anyone wants to compare.

    1. UNC (5) - Hansborough 6-9, Green 6-5, Frasor 6-2, Lawson 5-11(NBA?), Ellington 6-4 (NBA?)
    2. MSU (2) - Suton 6-10, Walton 6-2
    3. UCONN (4) - Adrien 6-7, Austrie 6-3, Price 6-3, Thabeet 7-3 (NBA?)
    4. Villanova (3) - Clark 6-7, Anderson 6-6, Cunningham 6-8
    5. Louisville (3) - Williams 6-6, McGee 5-10, Clark 6-7 (NBA)
    6. Pitt (4) - Fields 5-10, Biggs 6-8, Young 6-8, Blair 6-7 (NBA?)
    7. Oklahoma (3) - Johnson 6-3, Griffin 6-7, Griffin 6-10 (NBA)
    8. Missouri (3) - Carrol 6-8, Lyons 6-9, Lawrence 6-7
    9. Memphis (3) - Dozier 6-9, Anderson 6-6, Evans 6-6 (NBA?)
    10. Kansas (0)
    11. Duke (2) - Paulus 6-0, McClure 6-5
    12. Syracuse (0)
    13. Gonzaga (3) - Pargo 6-2, Downs 6-8, Heytvelt 6-11
    14. Purdue (2) - Green 6-6, Calasan 6-9
    15. Xavier (2) - Raymond 6-6, Anderson 6-6
    16. Washington (2) - Dentmon 5-11, Brockman 6-7
    17. LSU (4) - Thornton 6-4, Martin 6-6, Temple 6-6, Johnson 6-11
    18. UCLA (3) - Collison 6-0, Shipp 6-4, Aboya 6-9
    19. ASU (2) - Pendergraph 6-9, Harden 6-5 (NBA)
    20. WFU (2) - Hale 6-3, Johnson 6-8 (NBA)
    21. Marquette (4) - James 5-11, Burke 6-8, McNeil 6-3, Matthews 6-5
    22. FSU (2) - Douglas 6-2, Echefu 6-8
    23. Texas (2) - Abrams 5-11, Atchley 6-10
    24. Arizona (1) - Budinger 6-6 (NBA)
    25. Butler (0)

    I don't see Ellington leaving. He has a chance to be the man next year. If he does leave, UNC will obviously look very different next year. If they don't add Wall and lose Ellington, they will have some serious holes. They would still be talented but not a threat to repeat. Would they put Henson at the 3? They would have some backcourt and outside shooting questions to address. Their lineup could look something like this:

    Drew 6-2
    Strickland 6-4
    Ginyard 6-5
    Thompson 6-8
    Davis 6-11

  17. #37
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    I think Ellington is gone

    Quote Originally Posted by whereinthehellami View Post
    I don't see Ellington leaving. He has a chance to be the man next year. If he does leave, UNC will obviously look very different next year. If they don't add Wall and lose Ellington, they will have some serious holes. They would still be talented but not a threat to repeat. Would they put Henson at the 3? They would have some backcourt and outside shooting questions to address.
    There have been no definite statements yet from Ellington's camp, but IMO, he is as good as gone. He tested the waters last year and got a rude awakening that his game wasn't ready. He played VERY well the last two months of the season and in the tourney and should benefit from striking while the iron is hot. Due to his recent play he might even sneak into the first round. Combine this with the fact that the 2009 draft is seen as being considerably weaker than the 2010 draft and I think now is Ellington's best shot at getting guaranteed first round money.

    As you say he could be the man next year, but will that really help him with regard to the NBA? How much will his scoring average decline without the easy looks that come from Lawson's penetration and the attention given to Hansbrough in the post?

    This comprehensive list from Draft Express of who's going and who's not suggests that Ellington's camp is already interviewing prospective agents.

  18. #38
    nbadraft.net has Ellington in the top 12. Having just been named Final Four MOP, I think first round is a done deal. Most Heel fans I know are assuming he's gone.

  19. #39
    What are the best/most often correct draft sites?

    I know of:

    Chad Ford/ESPN
    Draft Express
    NBADraft.net


    Thoughts? Comments? Reviews?

  20. #40
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    Huh

    Quote Originally Posted by Skitzle View Post
    What are the best/most often correct draft sites?
    Isn't this an oxymoron?

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