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    I'm curious about Ty Lawson

    Is he sitting out for tomorrows game too?

    Go Duke!
    ~rthomas

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    Yes, Ty Lawson is sitrting out tomorrow's game. So are Hanstravel and the rest of the TH's!

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    Quote Originally Posted by rthomas View Post
    Is he sitting out for tomorrows game too?

    Go Duke!
    The question is whether he will practice all week. I expect his toe is really hurt and that is not an injury that just heals quickly. He will be playing in pain as long as UNC is in it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dukelifer View Post
    The question is whether he will practice all week. I expect his toe is really hurt and that is not an injury that just heals quickly. He will be playing in pain as long as UNC is in it.
    The question is whether he exacerbated his injury by participating in the Duke game last week.

    The answer is that he is sitting tomorrow.
    ~rthomas

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    Quote Originally Posted by rthomas View Post
    The question is whether he exacerbated his injury by participating in the Duke game last week.

    The answer is that he is sitting tomorrow.
    The word I heard is that he took a cortisone shot before the Duke game, which is why he was able to play pain free. The problem is, after the game his toe apparently was very swollen. It's quite possible that he may not be able to play next week. Luckily for unc, they will almost definitely still end up with a 1 seed and should still be able to get through the first 2 games of the tournament.

    The second weekend? Who knows.

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    If they are losing in any game that Lawson has sat for the majority of, does Roy bring him in cold? My guess is he'll be ready by Thursday anyways, but if not, and that scenario plays out, it will be interesting to see what Roy does. He said tonight if it's the FF and he hasn't played him because he is still hurt, he would be tempted to anyways.
    Q "Why do you like Duke, you didn't even go there." A "Because my art school didn't have a basketball team."

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    I doubt you see a situation where Roy would put a player in cold like that. Only way it happens is if he sits him in a situation where he is completely cleared to play because he thinks he wouldn't need him against a weak opponent, only to find himself needing him badly to try to save the tournament.

    This isn't the kind of injury where that happens, though. If he's cleared to play that means he's cleared such that they are in no way worried about him swelling badly after or anything like that. In that case, Roy plays him from the beginning anyway to try to get his team back in rhythm. If he can't, well, he can't. I've never seen any reason to believe K or Roy are any different with respect to how they treat injured players. It's player's welfare first, team second. There's very little gray area there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yancem View Post
    The word I heard is that he took a cortisone shot before the Duke game, which is why he was able to play pain free. The problem is, after the game his toe apparently was very swollen. It's quite possible that he may not be able to play next week. Luckily for unc, they will almost definitely still end up with a 1 seed and should still be able to get through the first 2 games of the tournament.

    The second weekend? Who knows.
    Without Lawson- they will be tested in that 8-9 matchup. Without Lawson, UNC has much less margin for error. Of course, it gets even smaller when Green shoots like he did this weekend.

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    It's funny...the Lawson injury doesn't seem to have anyone in the media questioning UNC's chances. All I am hearing is, "This was good for UNC, they learned to played without Lawson...they'll be even better when he comes back!"

    If we were without Singler for the same stretch, I'd be terrified. I am waiting for some major reporter to jump on the "Why isn't anyone worried about Lawson's injury?" story.

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    If he comes back

    Quote Originally Posted by Billy Dat View Post
    It's funny...the Lawson injury doesn't seem to have anyone in the media questioning UNC's chances. All I am hearing is, "This was good for UNC, they learned to played without Lawson...they'll be even better when he comes back!"

    If we were without Singler for the same stretch, I'd be terrified. I am waiting for some major reporter to jump on the "Why isn't anyone worried about Lawson's injury?" story.
    It was good for UNC if he comes back- but while UNC can still win it without Lawson- I expect most every game they play to be very close.

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    If Lawson is out and Carolina loses, do you think UNC will petition the NCAA to give Hansbrough an extra year to get that championship he's been wanting? This season shouldn't count if Carolina doesn't have Lawson for the tourney, dagumit.

    On a more serious note... if Lawson playing in the last game of the season to help UNC beat Duke in what will go down as basically a meaningless game ends up costing Carolina a shot at the title... wow.

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    What exactly does he have, a sprained toe? Anyone know anything about this? Is it something akin to a sprained ankle?

    Any chance it gets amputated and they lose Round 1? Just kidding...sort of...

    Lawson sat out an extra week or two last year with the sprained ankle and supposedly Ol roy wasnt too pleased. I have heard a few Unc fans question Lawson's dedication in the past week.

    Of course Ol Roy doesnt care about the ACC tourney so it works out well...built-in excuse for the loss, extra day off, extreme self-satisfaction among fan base because this compares directly to 2005.

    Super "Anyone remember how Villanova was beaten by the refs in 2005, not by Unc?" Dave

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    I suspect there's no media outcry about Lawson and the future because after today's game he said he'd be back next weekend.

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    If I heard correctly, a stubbed toe, not sure of the official physicians term, I'd guess bruised. Can be very painful and easily re-injured, for all of us, which is likely, all of us, who've had it before. Just hope you don't get gout, which makes a stubbed toe feel like bliss compared to gout. Thank the scientists for allopurinol

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    I live in Atlanta and occasionally miss the Triangle-centered basketball news on every radio station. My sister (lives in Raleigh) said the day before the UNC game they went on for 20 minutes about Lawson's toe, discussing the ins and outs of such a horrible injury and how it would affect UNC in their upcoming game. In the last seconds of the report, they said something along the lines of, "Duke is battling some injuries, too." No mention of broken nose, concussion, or high ankle sprain, but of course those pale in comparison to a toe injury.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DukeFencer View Post
    I live in Atlanta and occasionally miss the Triangle-centered basketball news on every radio station. My sister (lives in Raleigh) said the day before the UNC game they went on for 20 minutes about Lawson's toe, discussing the ins and outs of such a horrible injury and how it would affect UNC in their upcoming game. In the last seconds of the report, they said something along the lines of, "Duke is battling some injuries, too." No mention of broken nose, concussion, or high ankle sprain, but of course those pale in comparison to a toe injury.
    Your sister was correct. On the Saturday Sports Morning Show on 850 The Buzz last weekend, they discussed Lawson's injury ad naseum for 3 hours and what impact it would have on the Duke/unc game. They briefly mentioned Lance was probable, and gave little to no time to Nolan, Jon, and Zoubs injuries. It was all about Lawson.

    Interestingly, during the Maryland/State game Thursday night, Jimmy Dykes was calling the game on ESPN. They showed the Neal pick on Nolan, and the other announcer mentioned Nolan's health, and the fact Duke was coming into the tourney a little banged up. Dykes immediately commented that the pick was legal, and that the REAL injury story for this tourney was the health of UNC's Ty Lawson. Like any injuries other teams had were irrelevant.

    Sure Lawson is the key to the holes, but like Seth Greenburg put it yesterday, they still have Hanstravel, and they replaced Lawson with a McDonald's All American. And it's not like they were undefeated with Lawson in the lineup.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dukelifer View Post
    It was good for UNC if he comes back- but while UNC can still win it without Lawson- I expect most every game they play to be very close.
    I really don't believe they can win it without Lawson. It's likely a moot point since I fully expect Lawson will not miss a game in the NCAA tourney, but I think they would be hard pressed to make the Final Four without him. Without him they lose two key components of their offense. First is his ability in the half court to drive the basketball and score. Second is the speed he brings to allow them to get easy transition baskets. I do not feel they could overcome that in the Big Dance.

    But I don't care how or when they lose in the tourney as long as they lose!

    Go Duke!

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    I think uncch would have lost even had Lawson played. His toe just gave ol' roy an excuse for coming up short again in a big game. FSU beat them, and Duke will have their hands full tomorrow, especially with LT and Z still being hobbled by injury and Nolan still getting back in stride. In football turf toe can linger for months, not sure if this is the same injury, but I expect toes to be a major topic of discussion for heel fans for the rest of their season.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boozer View Post
    I really don't believe they can win it without Lawson. It's likely a moot point since I fully expect Lawson will not miss a game in the NCAA tourney, but I think they would be hard pressed to make the Final Four without him. Without him they lose two key components of their offense. First is his ability in the half court to drive the basketball and score. Second is the speed he brings to allow them to get easy transition baskets. I do not feel they could overcome that in the Big Dance.

    But I don't care how or when they lose in the tourney as long as they lose!

    Go Duke!
    There is no way on earth they win the tournament without Lawson, or without him playing very well. The morons at ESPN will pronounce the Heels favorites, but they have matchup problems all over the board, namely with teams with multiple bigs who are physical to throw at Beaker. That is the template (KU last year, Wake and FSU this year). Pitt and UConn are the most obvious candidates who fit that profile, but there are others.

    UNC needs Lawson as he is their trump card-when healthy he is the fastest player in America. They are a good team without him, but asking Frasor to fill that role is hilarious and unfair.

    dukemsu

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