With all due respect to Boyle and Meier, shouldn't Duke be casting a much wider net for coaches? Why wouldn't a current or former WNBA coach be tempted by Duke's job? Anne Donovan, Carolyn Peck, and others? What about major college coaches like Joanne P. McCallie and Dawn Staley?
Would Nell Fortner really stick with Auburn over Duke if they offered??
(Side note: Gosh, as a Texas alum, Nell must not be very happy that she wasn't considered for that job)
While a former Duke player and coach can, and probably will, do a great job with the program, I think if the search starts and ends with one candidate (Boyle), it perhaps indicates that Alleva & Co. STILL don't view the Duke women's basketball program as they should. They should be willing to pay the big bucks to at least attract one of these elite, proven coaches. If they still want to go with Boyle or Meier after interviews with other candidates, that's fine. But I hope Alleva realizes that what Coach G built at Duke will be very hard to sustain without a stronger commitment from the athletic department and the university as a whole.
I agree with Dockfan, mostly. Duke shouldn't rush and name Joanne Boyle coach just because she has a pretty good resume and went to Duke. Many very good coaches will want the job. If Boyle still is the most impressive, then let's hire her, bless her heart.
I think Carolyn Peck would be a great hire. Did an awsome job at Purdue, has WNBA experience and is currently available.
I do not think Pokey Chatman will be considered for the Duke job.
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Nor should she be.
It was intended to be a little rude.
from what I understand, Chatman had sexual relationships with more than one of her players. While they were presumably of age, this is an abuse of authority in that they were under her charge. I would be surprised if any university or high school condoned such a recurrent ethical lapse. I think she should be out of coaching, at least for some period of time.
I'd feel differently if the story turns out to be different. For example, if the student had already graduated, then anything goes as far as I'm concerned. It's akin to the difference between a prof/student and a prof/former student. The latter is okay (though some would question it), while the former just isn't acceptable.
Sorry to have offended you.
Upon reflection, I don't think my post was tangential (we were talking about G's replacement, and others had mentioned Pokey as being a good choice) or outrageously rude or obnoxious (sophomoric but not dramatically so) or unfair to her (my understanding is that the facts are as clear as they ever are in this kind of mess, and, if the consensus reports are true, she did seduce young people who were under her care, and I think she has gotten a relatively free ride in the press for a significant transgression).
I'm a reasonable guy, however, and will delete it.
I'll admit I'm a bit touchy about the Pokey issue. There's just been so much nastiness and so much homphobic alarmism in the wake of this it's made me rather more sensitive to that sort of thing. FTR, I agree with you that she shouldn't be considered for the Duke job (I seriously doubt she's really under consideration, anyway), since she has done nothing as yet to address the allegations against her. That she immediately resigned and went into hiding does tend to indicate that whatever happened was indeed very wrong, and to call it "baggage" as some earlier in this thread did, is probably underdramatizing the seriousness of the situation.
OK, Pokey hijack over (maybe).
Compare that to what Boyle did at Richmond and Cal. The comparison doesn't flatter Peck.
A movie is not about what it's about; it's about how it's about it.
Some questions cannot be answered
Who’s gonna bury who
We need a love like Johnny, Johnny and June
---Over the Rhine
If Coach G's replacement isn't at something like world class level, the program will likely suffer in future recruitments and sink to mediocrity. If Duke wants to maintain the tremendous popularity of the present women's basketball program, they need a top replacement, someone who can keep the stream of top new players coming.
Ironically, we were among those chanting "sit down, Brenda" at this year's Maryland-Duke game, yet, after a thorough discussion, we feel Duke should try to get Brenda Frese. Why? She's proven she can recruit and develop talented players. Further, and perhaps of more importance than one thinks, she doesn't have the monkey on her back of not having won a national championship. Like Coach G still does. Brenda has nothing more to prove. She's won it. No reason to tense up and with her tense up the whole team when trying to get that elusive title. And that flows into another important point. Brenda Frese seems to have the talent to keep her team loose, rather than freezing up at the most critical junctures of the year, like some recent Duke teams have folded. She also is young enough to have a couple decades ahead to build a further Duke dynasty. And not to mention a keen understanding of the ACC. All in all a list of great reasons to hire her that no other coach can match.
We'd love to see Duke go for the gold and at least get someone of Brenda's caliber and experience. It would give us a reason to continue to drive over to Durham for Duke games. If the program falls into mediocrity because of hiring some less than stellar choice, we, and probably quite a few others, would gradually find ourselves losing interest in the Duke women's basketball program. Just as we used to be Duke football fans.
Everytime I complain about Ted Roof, I hear about how the team is playing better, we have better recruits, and the coaching is finally up to par. In other words, I am told to "zip it." So, I must be wrong and football is really a sleeping giant. Why do I think it is going to be a long Fall and Spring next year?
One thing she complained about at Florida was losing recruits to the marquee programs, a problem she wouldn't have so much at Duke.