Good read here... http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/blog/...name=katz_andy
That wasn't a good read at all! It basically said if it wasn't for Clifton, Duke wouldn't have a chance. I hope that he now goes to Miami so we can beat up on them 2 times during the season and maybe Plumlee can give him a shiner or something.
I'm just hoping John Wall uses the same program...
Just when you think you start to understand what is going on, another article or incident happens to make the Wall recruitment even more confusing and interesting depending on where you sit on the fence!!!!
As for the actual recruitment, I find Katz's article to be somewhat disheartening. I would hate to think that Clifton is pushing Duke out of his own self-interest and frankly, if John comes here I hope that it's because Duke is where he wants to be. I take all these articles with a grain of salt, but ultimately I think it's best for all involved (including Duke) if John goes to the school that he thinks is best for him. I hope that place is Duke, but if not, so be it.
Try searching in this thread (or board for that matter) for jason_evans, jimsumner, carlos, olympicfan, stray gator, Bob Green. They have some good perspective to lend...
its not about reading someone, who made sense to you or who you thought took a logical approach to the subject. its about a message board, where people get to blow off steam. The posters deserve to vent and make their opinions known. Who knows what will happen with Wall, i certainly don't and i know more basketball than 3/4 of the people here. If Wall goes somewhere else, it will be the last time i speak of him, why should i? If he comes to Duke, i'll cheer for him. We have made far too much of a player who has a shaky jump shot and throws balls away with regularity (sounds a little like Bobby Hurley, his freshman year lol). He is a great athlete and can jump with the best but is he a Duke kid, i don't know. We have gotten way to deep into this situation, its basketball, not rocket science (is that hard?). In closing i'd like to say that the first 10 years of this endless recruitment was fun, the last 10, not so much, i'm ready for it to be over. If he comes, he comes, if not, well you get the picture. Now Harrison Barnes, thats a whole new level of torment.
Mods, I know I am off topic so feel free to delete if necessary. I just felt this needed to be said.
Duke is awesome. If you don't realize that, then you need awesome lessons.
Thanks to SilkyJ for being awesome.
First of all, please try to use proper punctuation and grammar - it makes reading posts much easier. Also, readers are more likely to discount your opinion if you can't even be bothered to write properly.
Second, I don't know which message boards you frequent, but DBR is most certainly NOT a place where "posters deserve to vent". Venting is DISCOURAGED here. If you need to vent, go somewhere else. We strive for a higher level of discourse, despite what you may read elsewhere in this thread.
As for knowing "more basketball than 3/4 of the people here", be careful what you assume. We have some true experts that read an occasionally post here.
Andre Dawkins: “People ask me if I can still shoot, and I ask them if they can still breathe. That’s kind of the same thing.”
I think that I just realized what the problem is here. We as Duke fans have been so spoiled over recruits in the decade that when the first reports of someone picking another school over Duke, we get bent out of shape. I know this is me for sure. I will never forget when Corey Maggette out of Chicago picked Duke, I was so excited, then Dunleavy and Jason Williams in 2000. We were getting everyone we wanted! Now in the culture of college basketball we are in, recruiting is a reality show. It is so highly publicized it makes it so much easier to be heartbroken as a fan because you think of "oh, what could've been." I don't want to think of John Wall as being the savior to this program because he WOULDN'T be if he came here. It is just so hard nowadays because all of these decisions get to the media and it is HUGE. With this culture, is it hard to believe that one's decision could affect the decision of future players as well? That is the scary thing. I don't want kids who have incredible basketball futures to pass Duke over just because guys like Boynton, Wall, Monroe, Patterson, and so on didn't come here, but instead Plumlee and Kelly do.
I know I kind of went off on a tangent here, but that is how I feel and why this is important to me (and probably a lot of other people as well).
"I'm interested in how you arrived at this calculation?"
Verga probably used your computer program to calculate the odds....