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    Bull Durham Sequel

    It appears Costner, Sarandon, Robbins are on board for the sequel.

    Tim Robbins and Susan Sarandon are also expected to return as pitcher Nuke LaLoosh and baseball groupie Annie Savoy, who are now married and owners of a Major League team that Costner manages.
    I'm curious what, if anything, this means for shooting scenes in Durham.

    By the way, I think this is a really bad idea.

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    They must have won the lottery, I don't know any minor leaguers who went on to own a major league team.

    I always kick myself when Bull Durham is brought up as a subject, I had the chance to be an extra in the movie. My friends and I were playing in the South Square mall arcade, and some lady asked if we'd like to show up to the DAP as extras. All we would have had to do was cheer and "act warm". (It wasn't warm when they filmed it). I had to go to work instead, and since I had already called in sick too much, it was either go flip burgers or get fired. Grrrrrrrrrr.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CameronBornAndBred View Post
    They must have won the lottery, I don't know any minor leaguers who went on to own a major league team.
    Nuke went up to the show at the end of the movie. I bet his million dollar arm made him a bunch of money in the bigs. If his 10 cent head didn't get in the way, that is. Still owning a major league team takes A LOT of money these days. I think having them own a MINOR league team instead would make the movie more interesting and believable from a financial standpoint.

    I would also like to second riverside6's notion that overall this is a bad idea.

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    I thought Annie was in love with Crash. I don't like that she married Nuke. Come on, this is the guy who thinks women get wooly (did I get that right?)!

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    bull durham II

    I'm reminded of Robert Altman's 1992 film "The Player" that opens with Buck Henry pitching an idea for a sequal to "The Graduate" to a studio exec. Of course, Altman is a genius and played it as a joke.

    I agree that a sequal to Bull Durham 20 years after the fact sounds like a bad idea. What makes it a worse idea is:

    -- The idea that Annie married Nuke ... that's a total betrayal of the characters. Annie never loved Nuke, she was having one of her typical summer flings with an empty headed young stud. If she would have married anybody -- not sure that she would have -- it would have been Crash.

    -- This can't be about owning and running a major league club. The entire essence of the movie was about minor league life and characters.

    Hopefully, the news of this project has distorted the outline of the project. It COULD work if:

    -- Annie and Crash are married. Maybe the fire has gone out of their relationship. Crash is hired as the minor league manager of the Durham Bulls, while Nuke -- who did make millions in the majors -- is the owner of the MINOR LEAGUE club. Maybe Nuke has grown and matured and now provides a real romantic threat to Crash. It would also be interesting to work in the change in the Durham Bulls -- from a seedy, low-rest Class A team to a Triple A team in a glitzy new stadium. Filming in Durham would be great -- especially since the old stadium is still there to be worked into the film.

    It's a funny thing. There's an old Hollywood myth that when a couple is hot-and-heavy off the screen, their on-screen chemisty suffers. Interesting that in Bull Durham, Sarandon and Costner had all the on-screen chemistry, while off screen, Sarandon and Robbins were the hot couple -- and are still together to this day.

    I wonder how that would play in a sequel???

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    Quote Originally Posted by riverside6 View Post

    By the way, I think this is a really bad idea.
    I'm with you there!

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    Quote Originally Posted by tbyers11 View Post
    Nuke went up to the show at the end of the movie. I bet his million dollar arm made him a bunch of money in the bigs. If his 10 cent head didn't get in the way, that is. Still owning a major league team takes A LOT of money these days.
    .
    Not even the best payed player in the majors could buy a major league team. Unless they win the lottery.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Olympic Fan View Post
    I'm reminded of Robert Altman's 1992 film "The Player" that opens with Buck Henry pitching an idea for a sequal to "The Graduate" to a studio exec. Of course, Altman is a genius and played it as a joke.

    I agree that a sequal to Bull Durham 20 years after the fact sounds like a bad idea. What makes it a worse idea is:

    -- The idea that Annie married Nuke ... that's a total betrayal of the characters. Annie never loved Nuke, she was having one of her typical summer flings with an empty headed young stud. If she would have married anybody -- not sure that she would have -- it would have been Crash.

    -- This can't be about owning and running a major league club. The entire essence of the movie was about minor league life and characters.

    Hopefully, the news of this project has distorted the outline of the project. It COULD work if:

    -- Annie and Crash are married. Maybe the fire has gone out of their relationship. Crash is hired as the minor league manager of the Durham Bulls, while Nuke -- who did make millions in the majors -- is the owner of the MINOR LEAGUE club. Maybe Nuke has grown and matured and now provides a real romantic threat to Crash. It would also be interesting to work in the change in the Durham Bulls -- from a seedy, low-rest Class A team to a Triple A team in a glitzy new stadium. Filming in Durham would be great -- especially since the old stadium is still there to be worked into the film.

    It's a funny thing. There's an old Hollywood myth that when a couple is hot-and-heavy off the screen, their on-screen chemisty suffers. Interesting that in Bull Durham, Sarandon and Costner had all the on-screen chemistry, while off screen, Sarandon and Robbins were the hot couple -- and are still together to this day.

    I wonder how that would play in a sequel???
    I agree with most of these comments. As for the "myth" about chemistry, Bogart and Bacall must not have gotten the memo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CameronBornAndBred View Post
    Not even the best payed player in the majors could buy a major league team. Unless they win the lottery.
    Maybe Annie opened a lingerie business called, oh I don't know, maybe Annie's Secret and could afford the team that way?

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    Quote Originally Posted by rasputin View Post
    I agree with most of these comments. As for the "myth" about chemistry, Bogart and Bacall must not have gotten the memo.
    Hepburn and Tracy must not have either. You could also add Newman and Woodward.

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    Yes, but as I recall, Crash thought her style of dress was "a bit excessive for the Carloina Leagues".

    Leave Tim Robbins out of the new movie. I like him, but in reality the role of Nuke was minor (yeah, I know he got a lot of screen time). The movie was a love story about Crash and Annie.

    In the new movie Crash and Annie have long since split up, gone their separate ways, and not seen/heard from each other in a long time. It ended badly, but in their hearts they still love each other. Crash is now a manager, and has a new phenom on his team - kind of a mystery boy. He loves the kid, but the kid makes him crazy. The denouement? We find that when Crash and Annie split up Annie was pregnant. She never told Crash. The new phenom is his son. Nuke can have a cameo if he really wants one, but he is incidental.

    That is the story I'd write, anyway, though I'd just as soon there be no sequel as no matter what they do it will pale in comparison to the original, one of my favorite (okay, my absolute favorite) movie of all time.

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    The fact that a remake/sequel is a bad idea doesn't seem to stop them from doing it. Exhibit A of 2008: trying to squish Brideshead Revisited into a 2-hr movie.

    A movie is not about what it's about; it's about how it's about it.
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    Who’s gonna bury who
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    Come on Throaty - there is no comparison. Brideshead Revisited is just a book. With Bull Durham we're dealing with "a Major League Love Story in a Minor League Town". They can do whatever the hell they wonat with Brideshead - who cares?! you don't mess with Crash Davis and Annie/Savoy - some thngs are sacred.

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    They are 15 years too late with this...

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    Smile Thank you CBaB!

    Quote Originally Posted by CameronBornAndBred View Post
    I always kick myself when Bull Durham is brought up as a subject, I had the chance to be an extra in the movie. My friends and I were playing in the South Square mall arcade, and some lady asked if we'd like to show up to the DAP as extras. All we would have had to do was cheer and "act warm". (It wasn't warm when they filmed it). I had to go to work instead, and since I had already called in sick too much, it was either go flip burgers or get fired. Grrrrrrrrrr.
    I took your place, thank you very much.

    IIRC, the lady promoting it was someone named Kippy/Kimmy Bell. I wound up sitting on the third base side. You missed out on some KK donuts. We were told that there would be beer too (literally, beer and donuts). Never saw the beer.

    Cheers,
    Lavabe

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    You know what I believe?

    I believe in the soul, (edit), the small of a woman's back, the hanging curve ball, high fiber, good scotch, that the novels of Susan Sontag are self-indulgent, overrated crap. I believe Lee Harvey Oswald acted alone. I believe there ought to be a constitutional amendment outlawing Astroturf and the designated hitter. I believe in the sweet spot, soft-core pornography, opening your presents Christmas morning rather than Christmas Eve and I believe in long, slow, deep, soft, wet kisses that last three days.

    And I believe that making a sequel out of this movie is a really, really bad idea at this point.

    --Jason "there was a time you might have been able to do it-- but now?? No way" Evans

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    Quote Originally Posted by TillyGalore View Post
    I thought Annie was in love with Crash. I don't like that she married Nuke. Come on, this is the guy who thinks women get wooly (did I get that right?)!
    Tilly - Dead on RIGHT!

    Two simple points: 1) The movie is a HORRIBLE idea and 2) the audience will NOT have the needed sympathy for Nuke and Annie. The audience wanted Crash and Annie all along.

    This is doomed from the start. Damn sequeals! I can't spell sequels.

    -EJ

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    Quote Originally Posted by sue71 View Post
    Maybe Annie opened a lingerie business called, oh I don't know, maybe Annie's Secret and could afford the team that way?
    I remember the lingerie Annie wore in the original. I remember it well. I remember it really, really, really, REALLY well.

    Really well.

    -EarlJam

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    Quote Originally Posted by JasonEvans View Post
    You know what I believe?

    I believe in the soul, (edit), the small of a woman's back, the hanging curve ball, high fiber, good scotch, that the novels of Susan Sontag are self-indulgent, overrated crap. I believe Lee Harvey Oswald acted alone. I believe there ought to be a constitutional amendment outlawing Astroturf and the designated hitter. I believe in the sweet spot, soft-core pornography, opening your presents Christmas morning rather than Christmas Eve and I believe in long, slow, deep, soft, wet kisses that last three days.

    And I believe that making a sequel out of this movie is a really, really bad idea at this point.

    --Jason "there was a time you might have been able to do it-- but now?? No way" Evans
    Clever post and great point. I salute and totally agree with you. Do NOT mess with perfection. God.

    -EJ

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    This is wrong. The sequel concept is wrong; Annie & Nuke getting married is beyond wrong. This whole thread even discussing it is wrong.

    I move that the moderators not just close this thread, but delete it, and permanently ban anyone who ever dares again to breath mention of defaming such a sacred movie as "Bull Durham."*



    *Bull Durham - voted tied for #1 best sports movie ever, by DBOR-OT Readers.

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