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    Dork news: New Mersenne prime discovered

    (2^43112609) - 1 is prime. Last digit has to be... 1.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hurleyfor3 View Post
    (2^43112609) - 1 is prime. Last digit has to be... 1.
    Dang, that's sweet. Finding a 13 million digit prime number ONLY makes you eligible for the $100,000 prize.

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    Numbers dorks are so cute. Really, smart guys rule!

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    The term dorks more often connotes only average intelligence combined with a lack of social grace, etc. Nerds and geeks on the other hand...

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    Wow, YBT, that was a dorky statement...

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    Smile A Billybreen FOTC moment

    Quote Originally Posted by YmoBeThere View Post
    Wow, YBT, that was a dorky statement...
    "There are children on the streets...
    Killing each other using knives and forks
    And calling each other names like Dork."

    Think about it!
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    Quote Originally Posted by YmoBeThere View Post
    Wow, YBT, that was a dorky statement...
    but not quite as dorky as replying to your own posts

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    Quote Originally Posted by hurleyfor3 View Post
    but not quite as dorky as replying to your own posts
    How is that dorky?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2535Miles View Post
    How is that dorky?
    Yeah, for reals.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hurleyfor3 View Post
    (2^43112609) - 1... Last digit has to be... 1.
    I was going to say, that's not true, but then I realized you can figure out the last digit without knowing the number... and yes, that last digit is 1, Mr. smarty-pants.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hc5duke View Post
    I was going to say, that's not true, but then I realized you can figure out the last digit without knowing the number... and yes, that last digit is 1, Mr. smarty-pants.
    That's kind'a cool... also since for n>2, n will always be odd, number can only end in 1 or 7. Never noticed that before...

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    Quote Originally Posted by g_olaf View Post
    That's kind'a cool... also since for n>2, n will always be odd, number can only end in 1 or 7. Never noticed that before...
    The one's digit in (2^x)-1 can be 1, 3, 5, or 7 (but never 9):

    My explanation:
    2^1 = 2 --> (2^x)-1 ends in 1 if (x mod 4) is 1
    2^2 = 4 --> (2^x)-1 ends in 3 if (x mod 4) is 2
    2^3 = 8 --> (2^x)-1 ends in 7 if (x mod 4) is 3
    2^4 = 16 --> (2^x)-1 ends in 5 if (x mod 4) is 0
    2^5 = 32
    2^6 = 64

    ... (the least significant digit will always cycle 2-4-8-6)

    2^43112609 --> (43112609 mod 4) is 1, therefore the number ends in 2 (and number-1 ends in 1)
    not a good proof (actually not a proof at all), but I think that's a pretty clear explanation.

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    Thanks for sharing Hurley. Really neat stuff. Are there any notorious equations out there still unsolved? How about one only solved by its creator?

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    Quote Originally Posted by pamtar View Post
    Thanks for sharing Hurley. Really neat stuff. Are there any notorious equations out there still unsolved? How about one only solved by its creator?

    Life itself?

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    Quote Originally Posted by YmoBeThere View Post
    Life itself?
    42. Next question?

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    Quote Originally Posted by hurleyfor3 View Post
    but not quite as dorky as replying to your own posts

    I find that on some of the boards that is the best way to have a reasonable conversation!

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    Quote Originally Posted by pamtar View Post
    Thanks for sharing Hurley. Really neat stuff. Are there any notorious equations out there still unsolved? How about one only solved by its creator?
    Among "easy" conjectures, that is, those which require knowing only basic arithmetic and geometry to understand, I think we still have the Goldbach conjecture, the twin prime conjecture, whether there are infinitely many perfect numbers, the 196 problem and the 3x + 1 problem. There aren't a whole lot of simply-stated ones left... who gives a crap about whether P = NP.

    Pierre de Fermat implied he had a solution to his own Last Theorem, but he probably didn't. The actual proof used systems of mathematics far more advanced than anything around in Fermat's time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hc5duke View Post
    The one's digit in (2^x)-1 can be 1, 3, 5, or 7 (but never 9):
    As it turns out, other than the first Mersenne prime which is (2^2) - 1 = 3, the power to which 2 is raised must always be odd. So all Mersenne primes end in either 1 or 7.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hurleyfor3 View Post
    As it turns out, other than the first Mersenne prime which is (2^2) - 1 = 3, the power to which 2 is raised must always be odd. So all Mersenne primes end in either 1 or 7.
    Ah, I see what you and g_olaf mean, I was referring to 2^x-1 in general, not Mersenne primes.

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