David Harding commits to Duke

[Devil in the Blue Dress]

Thanks for the many updates!

Is that "Dawn of a New Day" poster that Coach Cut is holding in the picture on your site for sale anywhere? I checked goduke and didn't see it.

Perhaps they'll be on sale at the first game... you could even get it autographed!

[watzone]

Thanks for the many updates!

Is that "Dawn of a New Day" poster that Coach Cut is holding in the picture on your site for sale anywhere? I checked goduke and didn't see it.

That was a pretty cool picture opportunity. You can probably purchase a poster through the Duke SID office. If you buy a regular price season ticket at the ticket office, you can more than likely ask and get one. ... doing my part to market DFB

[Bluedawg]

Many HS's (at least the ones my children attended) give an extra grade point for each honors course taken. Consequently, with all honors courses, the potential GPA is 5.0.

sagegrouse

My daughter is AP and she is on the same grading system

[devildeac]

How the heck does one get a 4.4 GPA? I don't like this gpa-inflation w/ some schools handing out 5.0's or very liberal in their giving of 4.5's.

[/random criticism]

Honors courses: A=5.0
AP courses: A=6.0

Grades are then reported as weighted vs unweighted.

[OldPhiKap]

There's always a job for somebody with a good liberal arts education!

Amen.


GTH,C. Bring on the season!

[Devil in the Blue Dress]

Literally. No kidding. You see the size of that guy?

He's just a little smaller than Vince Oghobaase.... Vince is 6' 6'' and 300 lb.

[devildeac]

He is an honor student with a 4.4 GPA.

And he was offered by Florida State, South Carolina, Vanderbilt, Georgia Tech, South Florida, Central Florida, Syracuse and Stanford. The last time Duke got a kid offered by Florida State was when???

--Jason "even before his first team gets on the field, it is impossible to ignore the ways Cut is making things better" Evans

Are you sure his GPA is 4.4? We all know now that Coach Cut is looking for speed so I thought maybe it was his 40 yard dash time.

[killerleft]

That was a pretty cool picture opportunity. You can probably purchase a poster through the Duke SID office. If you buy a regular price season ticket at the ticket office, you can more than likely ask and get one. ... doing my part to market DFB

I'll get my usual Family Plan tickets. Hopefully by next year a regular price ticket will be required to get a good seat!

[sagegrouse]

Excepting only Southern Texas and So Cal, you don't need to recruit anywhere else in order to win. The level of Football played in the South East at the HS and College is so far beyond any other states, it is not even funny. Seriously, it is not a joke. It is bedrock fact.

IMHO (with sagegrouse the "h" is always silent) I also think that we will soon return to our happy hunting grounds in the northeast. During the 20-30 year period where eastern college football consisted of Penn State and occasionally Pitt, Duke was a preferred destination for recruits from that region.

I think it is wonderful to kick butt in our home state, but having a national recruiting program is also good.

sagegrouse
'Actually NC was a really good historical area for Duke recruiting. Sonny Jurgenson tells the story that after the No Car high school all-star game inthe 1950s, he and the other really good players conferred and all decided to go to Duke -- yay!'

[jimsumner]

"Actually NC was a really good historical area for Duke recruiting"

Gordon Carver
Bob Gantt
Billy Cox
Jerry Barger
Roy Hord
Sonny Jurgensen
Wray Carlton
Mike McGee
Jean Berry
Stan Crisson
Bob Matheson
Al Woodall
Leo Hart
Wes Chesson
Steve Jones
Billy Bryan
Troy Slade
Tom Hall
Charles Bowser
Dennis Tabron
Cedric Jones
Chris Castor
Emmett Tilley
Walter Jones
Dave Colonna
Doug Green
Clarkston Hines
Quenton McCracken
Corey Thomas
Scottie Montgomery

That's off the top of my head and that's just the tip of the iceberg. I'm sure I've omitted some worthies. One of my major areas of disagreement with Ted Roof was his insistence that Duke couldn't recruit in-state. I don't know if admissions got tougher or it was just a self-fulfilling prophecy but Duke hasn't competed for recruits in its home state for far too long. I am absolutely delighted to see that change.

[jimsumner]

A word on GPAs. My children went to Enloe, which is Raleigh's GT magnet school, which means it has lots of AP and Honors classes. My son graduated with a 4.9 and wasn't even in the top 10%. IIRC, his valedictorian had something in the neighborhood of a 5.4.

[Acymetric]

A word on GPAs. My children went to Enloe, which is Raleigh's GT magnet school, which means it has lots of AP and Honors classes. My son graduated with a 4.9 and wasn't even in the top 10%. IIRC, his valedictorian had something in the neighborhood of a 5.4.

That's about what my high school's valedictorian had a few years back, I think. As someone mentioned, the transcript shows both the weighted and unweighted GPA, so colleges get both. Really its a useful tool, should an A in a standard class be the same as an A in an AP? It gets a little cloudier when you ask if an A in a standard class should be less than a B in an AP class, but no system is perfect...

[devildeac]

A word on GPAs. My children went to Enloe, which is Raleigh's GT magnet school, which means it has lots of AP and Honors classes. My son graduated with a 4.9 and wasn't even in the top 10%. IIRC, his valedictorian had something in the neighborhood of a 5.4.

Heck, that's a LOW GPA for Enloe or some of the other HS in Raleigh for that matter. Some of our friends' children went to Enloe and a goodly number of students there skipped their lunch time so they could take 7 courses instead of the usual 6 so their GPA would be higher. They also took courses at NCSU so they could get a 6.25 instead of a 6.0 on their transcript if they earned an A in the college course.

[El_Diablo]

How the heck does one get a 4.4 GPA? I don't like this gpa-inflation w/ some schools handing out 5.0's or very liberal in their giving of 4.5's.

[/random criticism]

By studying! It's good to see that we're landing stellar athletes without having to sacrifice academic standards. Keep it up Coach!


Where are the Snowdens of yesteryear?

[Clipsfan]

Heck, that's a LOW GPA for Enloe or some of the other HS in Raleigh for that matter. Some of our friends' children went to Enloe and a goodly number of students there skipped their lunch time so they could take 7 courses instead of the usual 6 so their GPA would be higher. They also took courses at NCSU so they could get a 6.25 instead of a 6.0 on their transcript if they earned an A in the college course.

That makes no sense to me, given that GPA is an average. How does adding more classes increase the potential maximum?

I know that back when I was in HS I only got an extra point (5 max) for APs (I went to a school where almost every class I took the last 2 years was an AP). I've never heard of this "6.0" for a class before. Is it just an east coast thing, or is it just new?

[El_Diablo]

That makes no sense to me, given that GPA is an average. How does adding more classes increase the potential maximum?

Adding more classes that are weighted as 5.0 or 6.0 raise your average by counteracting the "dead weight" 4.0's from introductory courses and classes with no AP (physical education, keyboarding, etc).

[sagegrouse]

That makes no sense to me, given that GPA is an average. How does adding more classes increase the potential maximum?

I know that back when I was in HS I only got an extra point (5 max) for APs (I went to a school where almost every class I took the last 2 years was an AP). I've never heard of this "6.0" for a class before. Is it just an east coast thing, or is it just new?

I am not going to defend the practice, but the way it works is that an A in an honors course is scored at 5.0 and an A in a non-honors course is scored a 4.0. Similarly for a B. Ergo a 4.4 could mean all A's and two honors courses (out of five). Or 2 A's and 3 B's in all honors courses. (Or some other combination.)

sagegrouse

[jimsumner]

If you're really that interested in Triangle-area valedictorian GPAs, the link below lists the 2008 folks. The Cardinal Gibbons valedictorian was in the 5.9 neighborhood.

http://72.14.205.104/search?q=cache:...lnk&cd=1&gl=us

[formerdukeathlete]

A word on GPAs. My children went to Enloe, which is Raleigh's GT magnet school, which means it has lots of AP and Honors classes. My son graduated with a 4.9 and wasn't even in the top 10%. IIRC, his valedictorian had something in the neighborhood of a 5.4.

harding has a relatively high gpa, passed the academic screening for Stanford, a very solid addition, academically oriented to pick Duke over FSU, this kind of recruit makes our admin and our coaches happy = win, win, which of course we hope startes wth JMU!

[OldPhiKap]

Nice pick up!